I don't believe 24k acre countries should be losing so little buildings in 55 attacks.


2012-08-12 07:48:43 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 105B
2012-08-12 07:48:33 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 105B
2012-08-12 07:48:32 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 105B
2012-08-12 07:48:13 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 103B
2012-08-12 07:48:12 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 110B
2012-08-12 07:48:02 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 110B
2012-08-12 07:48:02 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 113B
2012-08-12 07:48:00 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 113B
2012-08-12 07:48:00 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 113B
2012-08-12 07:48:00 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 111B
2012-08-12 07:47:50 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 116B
2012-08-12 07:47:46 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 116B
2012-08-12 07:47:29 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 116B
2012-08-12 07:47:25 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 120B
2012-08-12 07:47:25 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 120B
2012-08-12 07:47:24 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 120B
2012-08-12 07:47:24 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 122B
2012-08-12 07:47:19 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 122B
2012-08-12 07:47:17 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 121B
2012-08-12 07:47:13 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 123B
2012-08-12 07:47:07 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 123B
2012-08-12 07:46:54 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 123B
2012-08-12 07:46:45 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 127B
2012-08-12 07:46:45 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 129B
2012-08-12 07:46:43 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 127B
2012-08-12 07:46:42 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 130B
2012-08-12 07:46:30 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 128B
2012-08-12 07:45:54 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 130B
2012-08-12 07:45:41 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 130B
2012-08-12 07:45:33 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 132B
2012-08-12 07:45:33 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 136B
2012-08-12 07:45:14 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 134B
2012-08-12 07:45:03 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 141B
2012-08-12 07:44:57 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 137B
2012-08-12 07:44:49 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 137B
2012-08-12 07:44:45 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 143B
2012-08-12 07:44:40 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 141B
2012-08-12 07:44:24 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 144B
2012-08-12 07:44:14 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 144B
2012-08-12 07:44:12 AB LIpstick and Lace (#91) Venus (#229) 148B
2012-08-12 07:43:40 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 146B
2012-08-12 07:43:32 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 146B
2012-08-12 07:43:25 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 148B
2012-08-12 07:43:05 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 148B
2012-08-12 07:42:30 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 151B
2012-08-12 07:42:23 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 151B
2012-08-12 07:42:11 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 153B
2012-08-12 07:41:57 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 153B
2012-08-12 07:41:30 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 153B
2012-08-12 07:41:22 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 155B
2012-08-12 07:41:06 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) DH
2012-08-12 07:40:55 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 155B
2012-08-12 07:40:43 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 158B
2012-08-12 07:40:36 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 158B
2012-08-12 07:40:27 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 160B
2012-08-12 07:40:11 AB Errors of My Way (#56) Venus (#229) 160B

def bldngs b4 attacks?

After 55 attacks his def would have been minimal and he was not a parking lot before hand.

Explain this one. A smaller country (17k compared to Chewi's mention) went from 61 building to 500 very quickly.

2012-08-12 06:05:22 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 200B
2012-08-12 06:05:21 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 212B
2012-08-12 06:05:21 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 224B
2012-08-12 06:05:20 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 238B
2012-08-12 06:05:19 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 252B
2012-08-12 06:05:19 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 266B
2012-08-12 06:05:19 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 282B
2012-08-12 06:05:18 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 299B
2012-08-12 06:05:17 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 317B
2012-08-12 06:05:15 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 333B
2012-08-12 06:05:14 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 351B
2012-08-12 06:05:13 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 370B
2012-08-12 06:05:12 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 389B
2012-08-12 06:05:11 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 408B
2012-08-12 06:05:11 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 425B
2012-08-12 06:05:10 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 443B
2012-08-12 06:05:09 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 460B
2012-08-12 06:05:08 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 475B
2012-08-12 06:04:55 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 490B
2012-08-12 06:04:55 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 502B
2012-08-12 06:04:54 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 511B
2012-08-12 06:04:54 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 519B
2012-08-12 06:04:53 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 523B
2012-08-12 06:04:50 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 522B
2012-08-12 06:04:50 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 517B
2012-08-12 06:04:47 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 508B
2012-08-12 06:04:46 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 493B
2012-08-12 06:04:45 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 472B
2012-08-12 06:04:45 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 447B
2012-08-12 06:04:44 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 416B
2012-08-12 06:04:44 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 378B
2012-08-12 06:04:43 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 335B
2012-08-12 06:04:42 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 287B
2012-08-12 06:04:42 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 235B
2012-08-12 06:04:27 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 180B
2012-08-12 06:04:27 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 122B
2012-08-12 06:04:26 AB nipples (#131) for fun (#66) 61B

Wow, weird

buildings on hand? networth?

#229 was 18.6m net at the start and had less than 2k unbuilt. #56 has 19.4m at start.

what were there respective tank:building ratios?

53.3 Tanks per building for #56 and about 31.6 Tank per building for #229.

Another large country getting ABed resulting in low returns.

2012-08-14 14:54:11 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 93B
2012-08-14 14:54:07 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 94B
2012-08-14 14:54:03 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 97B
2012-08-14 14:54:00 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 98B
2012-08-14 14:53:56 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 100B
2012-08-14 14:53:51 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 101B
2012-08-14 14:53:29 NM the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 1142A
2012-08-14 14:53:09 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 112B
2012-08-14 14:53:04 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 113B
2012-08-14 14:53:00 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 114B
2012-08-14 14:52:56 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 117B
2012-08-14 14:52:52 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 118B
2012-08-14 14:52:44 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 120B
2012-08-14 14:52:32 NM the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 1202A
2012-08-14 14:52:22 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 131B
2012-08-14 14:52:16 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 133B
2012-08-14 14:52:10 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 135B
2012-08-14 14:52:03 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 136B
2012-08-14 14:51:56 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 138B
2012-08-14 14:51:50 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 140B
2012-08-14 14:51:40 CM the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 728B 30844 C
2012-08-14 14:51:28 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 149B
2012-08-14 14:51:15 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 149B
2012-08-14 14:51:05 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 149B
2012-08-14 14:50:43 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 149B
2012-08-14 14:50:31 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 149B
2012-08-14 14:50:18 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 149B
2012-08-14 14:50:04 CM the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 796B 35453 C
2012-08-14 14:49:53 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 155B
2012-08-14 14:49:37 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 155B
2012-08-14 14:49:27 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 155B
2012-08-14 14:49:03 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 156B
2012-08-14 14:48:50 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 156B
2012-08-14 14:48:36 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 156B
2012-08-14 14:48:15 CM the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 867B 40750 C
2012-08-14 14:47:58 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) DH
2012-08-14 14:47:43 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) DH
2012-08-14 14:47:28 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 158B
2012-08-14 14:47:09 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 158B
2012-08-14 14:46:48 AB the reason is you (#174) Lexus CT200H (#109) 158B

Chewi shouldn't have posted this on the B&S board. Moderators don't take kindly to their idiocy being pointed out.

This game is so fluffing broken. You get deleted for posting a bug about how broken the game is.

You're a fluffing joke.

Um, no he didn't? Stop making blind accusations all the time Rockman

i was 131. the reason is that he started with 0 tanks. it takes like 5 hits to ramp up with 0 defense. yet with 5k defense say it takes 50 hits or more to reach the max gains. even after you take them down to under 1k tanks. i posted about this earlier the 'reasonable defense' formulas need fixing. i think if you buy 1000 tanks it will take a ton of hits to ramp up returns. where 0 tanks takes very little hits. since 1000 tanks is not a reasonable defense the formula fails at its purpose

Post proper analyses somewhere obvious so I can see them; I'm plenty willing to adjust the formula, but I need good quality feedback.

The data you need for analyses is hard to get on a live server.

what kinda data you want? i can post you the news. its like you want these changes and then want us to fix them for you.

news, and country numbers and times.

@martian, all the info you just requested is in the post above. Or am I still high or something?

Ah I kindof also meant land / built / nw / tanks, and your nw at the time;


Returns are dependant upon:

#1) number of special attacks on the country in the last 24 hours
#2) the amount of the target item (like... buildings... or population)
#3) the amount of the defending unit (like... tanks... or turrets or troops)
#4) target nw & attacker nw


So I need to know that information to be able to get a good feel for if the numbers are funny ^^

qzjul, regarding the opening post by Chewi-

At the start (DR0):
#229 - 25,020 acres, ~23,720 acres built (approx 1.3k unbuilt), $18,648,658NW, 752k tanks.

At the end (DR45):
#229 - 25,020 acres, ~16,420 acres built (approx 8.6k unbuilt), $16,286,926NW, 32k tanks.

#56 - $19,416,327NW which dropped to $17,990,921NW by the end of the run.
#91 - $16,511,153NW which dropped to $16,409,465NW by the end of the run.

Hope this helps with the analysis.

Target 5600 land and decent tanks, but seriously? 35 ABs, less than 500 buildings killed

AB Aug 23, 01:37 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 01:38 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 01:38 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 01:39 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 01:40 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 01:40 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 01:40 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 01:41 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 01:41 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 01:42 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 12:03 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:03 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:03 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:03 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:03 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:04 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:04 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:04 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:04 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:05 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:06 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:06 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 12:06 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 22:01 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 22:01 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 22:01 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 22:01 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 22:01 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 22:01 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 22:02 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 22:02 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 23, 22:02 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 22:02 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 22:02 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 23, 22:04 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B

i think the ramp up should start sooner and go slower if anything. no reason for returns to stay the same or go down during the breaking.

More ABs.

AB Aug 24, 17:26 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:26 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:27 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:27 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:27 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:27 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:27 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:28 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:28 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:28 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:28 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:28 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 15 B
AB Aug 24, 17:29 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 24, 17:29 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 24, 17:29 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B

Target down to ~25k tanks. 15 more ABs, 222 more buildings killed... Not sure why I'm persisting because it's not doing anything worthwhile still heh. Isn't 15 buildings killed VERY low? For someone with ~5700. That's 0.27% of his buildings per hit.

was he fully built?

Yes, fully built. After I killed those latest 222 buildings, he had 238 empty acres. 5821 acres total. I am roughly twice his size in nw and land, though I have 3000 empty acres courtesy of bomb structures.

He's down to <10k tanks now.

AB Aug 25, 02:09 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:09 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:09 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:09 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:09 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:09 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:09 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:10 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:11 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B
AB Aug 25, 02:11 The Marshes (#33) Road Rage (#39) 14 B

Damage isn't going up, this is 36 hits in the same 8 hours, still taking 0.27% of land per hit heh, even though he's still 90% built.

This round doesn't really matter to me but maybe the formula can be revised some point in the future.

I'm just gonna post this here because as a new player, I may not get what the Admins are trying to do fully here, but this did not seem right to me..

The Info as you requested, if I missed something please let me know:

2012-10-27 19:26:04 AB BigStickPolicy (#7) msg me if you are new in game (#151) 24B
2012-10-27 19:24:35 CM BigStickPolicy (#7) msg me if you are new in game (#151) 384B 20121 C
2012-10-27 19:24:33 CM BigStickPolicy (#7) msg me if you are new in game (#151) 400B 23128 C
2012-10-27 19:24:31 CM BigStickPolicy (#7) msg me if you are new in game (#151) 416B 26583 C
2012-10-27 19:24:24 NM BigStickPolicy (#7) msg me if you are new in game (#151) 554A
2012-10-27 19:24:22 NM BigStickPolicy (#7) msg me if you are new in game (#151) 583A
2012-10-27 14:48:07 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) DH
2012-10-27 14:47:32 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) DH
2012-10-27 14:47:30 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) DH
2012-10-27 14:47:29 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 154B
2012-10-27 14:47:28 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 157B
2012-10-27 14:47:27 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 159B
2012-10-27 14:47:26 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 161B
2012-10-27 14:47:23 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 163B
2012-10-27 14:46:05 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) DH
2012-10-27 14:46:04 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 169B
2012-10-27 14:46:03 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 172B
2012-10-27 14:46:02 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 176B
2012-10-27 14:46:01 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 180B
2012-10-27 14:45:56 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 183B
2012-10-27 14:44:42 CM msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 810B 32444 C
2012-10-27 14:44:31 EM msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 66021MU
2012-10-27 14:44:30 EM msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 66658MU
2012-10-27 14:44:25 EM msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 67301MU
2012-10-27 14:43:48 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) DH
2012-10-27 14:43:47 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 190B
2012-10-27 14:43:46 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 194B
2012-10-27 14:43:45 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 198B
2012-10-27 14:43:38 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 202B
2012-10-27 14:43:09 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) DH
2012-10-27 14:42:47 AB msg me if you are new in game (#151) BigStickPolicy (#7) 204B

msg me if you are new in game (#151) Info:
Government: Theocracy
Land = 11,659 Acres
Enterprise Zones = 0
Residences = 0
Industrial Complexes = 535
Military Bases = 0
Research Labs = 0
Farms = 10,985
Oil Rigs = 0
Construction Sites = 95
Unused Lands = 44
Networth = $5,661,432
Tanks = 468,223 (WHEN I HIT)
Tanks = ~1,708,223 (WHEN HE HIT ME*)

My Country - BigStickPolicy (#7) Info:
Government: Democracy
Land = 27,322
Enterprise Zones = 399
Residences = 389
Industrial Complexes = 644
Military Bases = 19,944
Research Labs = 2224
Farms = 25
Oil Rigs = 8
Construction Sites = 138
Unused Lands = 3551
Networth = $9,673,315
Tanks = 1,274,390 (WHEN I HIT HIM AFTER PURCHASING 1Mil MORE)
Tanks = ~1,103,753 (WHEN HE HIT ME**)

*I totaled up his tanks from my spy report plus the tanks he lost attacking me with his AB, any other activity I can't see.

**I totaled up my tanks at login plus the tanks lost from his AB attacks, but did not add anything lost from the EM strikes.

*** When he hit me I was fully built with over 22k MB's except for 40 acres that were fee bonus acres. Also, When I logged off I was at about 11.5mil networth, but had military on the market, so maybe about ~10.5mil when he hit me, I don't really know for sure. All buildings and networths above are after his hits.

As for special attacks, he hit me with 15 out of 21 AB's and 3 EM's and 1 CM (if those count). I hit him with 2 NM and 3 CM before sending my 1 AB, then trying 1 Bomb Buildings spy op, but I only got 9 buildings destroyed out of that..

Then I said to myself, "This is doing nowhere near the damage he is doing to me per hit." Its taking me 3 turns (Demo) attacking to do just over half a turn of damage to him just rebuilding. He is doing 3-4 turns of damage just rebuilding to me while spending 2 turns attacking. A country with ~42.67% of my land size and 58.53% of my networth is destroying ~6.42 times the buildings on his worst hits and ~8.5 times on his best hits..

i have nothing to aid in the discussion, but i really enjoyed crests wording :P

still, of course, being the operative word ;)

God i love this thread!

Pew Pew Pew!!!!

Just to be clearer in my position on it, I think that (1) AB damage is too low for everyone in Primary, and (2) AB damage seems to favor smaller countries in doing lots more damage against larger countries.

http://www.eestats.com/primary/country/7

(1) This guy has been hitting me for days now with AB's (switched to GS today) and I feel no threat of being leveled. Admittedly the first AB's hurt, but mostly because it destroyed a crap load of my CS. I went from 100 BPT to 45 BPT after just the first day of AB's. But since then he has mostly just been an annoyance, if not slightly helpful at this point in putting me into DR so these late game grabs/retals don't do much.

Day 1: 25 successful AB's = 4602 Buildings destroyed.
Day 2: 17 successful AB's = 1928 Buildings destroyed.
Day 3: 15 successful AB's = 2662 Buildings destroyed.

Total: 57 successful AB's = 9192 Buildings destroyed.
Average Buildings destroyed per AB = ~161 buildings.

At my ~26,000 acres (My land before his first AB's), it would of taken him around ~161 successful AB's (322 turns @ 2 turns each, 6.7 days average) at that constant rate to turn me into a parking lot, assuming I didn't log in and rebuild them.


(2) The smaller country kicks the crap out of the bigger one in damage done from what I can tell.

At his 11,000 acres (His land before my AB), it would of taken me around ~458 successful AB's (916 turns @ 2 turns each, 19 days average) at a constant rate of 24 buildings destroyed per AB to turn him into a parking lot, assuming he didn't log in and rebuild them.

This doesn't take into account for any ramp up effects, because I am not really sure how it works, nor have I seen any increase in buildings destroyed with the more AB's he sends per 24 hours. Actually to the contrary, the more attacks he sent per 24 hours the fewer buildings he seemed to destroy each time.

I know this math is probably not really all that accurate to the real formula, but its the best data I got to go on at the moment. Both of the time frames it would take to level the other country seem a bit too long in my opinion, even if they don't rebuild.

I think it was the reset that the new attack formula was implemented in Express...one country made like 50 ABs against me and destroyed maybe 2k buildings in all...then another player made 4 ABs against me and destroyed around 1.5k buildings PER ATTACK. Fun times.

1) I can up the building damage fairly easily; dropping CS perhaps a bit

2) There *is* a networth factor; but it's the same that it's always been, I did not modify that part. If you have the same number of tanks, say X, however, it will, as a result of X/10 > X/100 (where land are 10 and 100 respectively) do more damage to the larger person. If, however, they have the same tanks/buildings ratio, they *ought* to do fairly similar, with, of course, the caveat that there is the (same as before) networth factor.... It also ramps with number of hits.


It could probably use some tuning yes, as stated in the original announcement; I'll see if martian & I can math out some stuff sometime before Dec 1st (to catch FFA/Alliance/Primary/ & probably team)

I don't know any of the stats of these countries since I'm not involved, but I thought this looked weird.

Very low damages:
2012-10-21 14:13:21 AB Harvard Law Grad For President (#156) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 37B
2012-10-21 14:13:13 AB Harvard Law Grad For President (#156) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 37B
2012-10-21 14:13:03 AB Harvard Law Grad For President (#156) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 37B
2012-10-21 14:12:11 AB Harvard Law Grad For President (#156) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 37B
2012-10-21 14:12:01 AB Harvard Law Grad For President (#156) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 37B
2012-10-21 14:11:49 AB Harvard Law Grad For President (#156) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 37B
2012-10-21 14:10:44 AB Harvard Law Grad For President (#156) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 37B
2012-10-21 14:10:33 AB Harvard Law Grad For President (#156) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 37B
2012-10-21 14:10:23 AB Harvard Law Grad For President (#156) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 37B

few days later

2012-10-30 00:21:19 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 199B
2012-10-30 00:21:14 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 201B
2012-10-30 00:21:08 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 203B
2012-10-30 00:20:49 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 203B
2012-10-30 00:20:44 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 205B
2012-10-30 00:20:43 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 207B
2012-10-30 00:20:41 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 207B
2012-10-30 00:20:35 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 210B
2012-10-30 00:20:31 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 212B
2012-10-30 00:20:30 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 214B
2012-10-30 00:20:27 AB Gotham City (#331) Arbitrary Country Name (#94) 215B

this set in tournament i had a suicider harassing me all round. i didnt bother to AB him or fight back at all, because in my experience, since the changes, the cost is just not worth the damage you deal out.

qz, for ABs I would rather you left the building damage the same but up the CS damage to devastating levels. That way ABes are different choice from BRs.

Right now CS damage is devastating if you're dealing out high damage. It didn't used to be like that, now you can kill all someone's c-sites in like 10 ABs if they have no tanks, for example.

It's not just that blid. The buildings killed are not in proportion. If you have very little buildings built, more CSes are killed in proportion.

TTT