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blid

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Aug 29th 2013, 14:39:20

Why do enemy operatives "steal" $X and then destroy $0? They always "destroy $0 worth of cash." If nothing is ever being destroyed why does that part of the op exist?

16.5 hours ago
Enemy operatives stole $8,405,106 and destroyed $0 worth of cash!

16.5 hours ago
Enemy operatives stole $8,438,861 and destroyed $0 worth of cash!

16.5 hours ago
Enemy operatives stole $8,472,752 and destroyed $0 worth of cash!

16.5 hours ago
Enemy operatives stole $8,506,779 and destroyed $0 worth of cash!

16.5 hours ago
Enemy operatives stole $8,540,943 and destroyed $0 worth of cash!

Edited By: qzjul on Sep 19th 2013, 4:55:59
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Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

h2orich Game profile

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Aug 29th 2013, 15:10:44

In team servers, $ get destroyed. You cant steal from someone on like 1a and team.

Think you are only able to steal in solo servers

So for example, if someone bomb your banks in 1a/team, it will show
16.5 hours ago
Enemy operatives stole $0 and destroyed $8,540,943 worth of cash!

blid

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Aug 29th 2013, 15:29:25

Oh, weird. Why the distinction?
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

h2orich Game profile

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Aug 29th 2013, 15:48:43

Because we dont want people in team servers to be stocking cash and letting a guy to steal it all to win the set.

blid

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Aug 29th 2013, 16:11:56

Isn't that a bigger risk in Primary servers?

In team servers you can just send aid anyway to help someone win the set.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

h2orich Game profile

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Aug 29th 2013, 16:28:09

FA are trackable. Spy ops arent :P

I dont know about Primary, but I've never seen anyone abusing this yet. Given that we have 54 turns a day, 10 will be used for spy ops, 10 for grabbing and 15 for building, the rest will be put into CSes. Probably none left for stealing. And at nearer end to the set, to be able to steal that amount of cash, your 'friend' has to have 3-4b cash on hand, and he has to be within 1/4 range of you too. Well, tbh I dont know .lol

blid

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Aug 29th 2013, 16:32:27

Major opening for abuse in express. Have your friend stock $2b or more, you run a commie, have 360 turns left in last 15 minutes, friend drops all spies, you bomb banks 120 times and fund your destock! I've actually suspected people of that before but only as pure conjecture
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

h2orich Game profile

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Aug 29th 2013, 16:36:40

I'm not sure about express if you steal or destroy cash. I'm sure that 1a and team destroys cash and primary and tourney gets cash stolen.

elvesrus

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Aug 29th 2013, 16:53:52

if it creates a networth change, it is possible to track it if the perpetrator doesn't try to hide it
Originally posted by crest23:
Elves is a douche on every server.

blid

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Aug 29th 2013, 17:04:10

Not really elves. if the suspect country is running turns or playing their country, their net will go up anyway. How would anyone know you're stealing cash, or from who? And even if someone suspected so and somehow had a suspicion which country was being robbed, just the fact that their net dipped in between two 5 minute updates doesn't go a long way to proving anything
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Marshal Game profile

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Aug 29th 2013, 19:50:41

Originally posted by blid:
Major opening for abuse in express. Have your friend stock $2b or more, you run a commie, have 360 turns left in last 15 minutes, friend drops all spies, you bomb banks 120 times and fund your destock! I've actually suspected people of that before but only as pure conjecture


both need to be basically equal nw so it wouldn't work that well, "donating person" would need to spend money to keep nws same so spier wouldn't get that much.
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elvesrus

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Aug 29th 2013, 23:33:46

didn't say easy, just possible
Originally posted by crest23:
Elves is a douche on every server.

Atryn Game profile

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Aug 30th 2013, 11:45:18

Originally posted by blid:
Major opening for abuse in express. Have your friend stock $2b or more, you run a commie, have 360 turns left in last 15 minutes, friend drops all spies, you bomb banks 120 times and fund your destock! I've actually suspected people of that before but only as pure conjecture


Even with spies dropped, wouldn't you still run into significant Spy DR?

Also, my experience with bomb banks - you get the best results if you have at least as much cash as your target.

So to _efficiently_ steal from that $2B guy, you'd want to space it out over several days (limited ops / day and spy dr issues) and you'd want to already have close to $2B on hand (watch for decay), etc.

PaleMoon Game profile

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Aug 30th 2013, 12:48:55

Originally posted by Atryn:
Originally posted by blid:
Major opening for abuse in express. Have your friend stock $2b or more, you run a commie, have 360 turns left in last 15 minutes, friend drops all spies, you bomb banks 120 times and fund your destock! I've actually suspected people of that before but only as pure conjecture


Also, my experience with bomb banks - you get the best results if you have at least as much cash as your target.

So to _efficiently_ steal from that $2B guy, you'd want to space it out over several days (limited ops / day and spy dr issues) and you'd want to already have close to $2B on hand (watch for decay), etc.


I've read you steal the lower of 3% of your target's cash on hand, or 5% of your cash on hand. Same goes for food and (I assume) tech.
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