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Rob Game profile

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Feb 4th 2012, 19:18:03

Not sure if there is another thread here for this.
Let's sticky this and discuss on the DR for express.

My suggestion is we reduce DR from the current 24 hrs to around 10-12 hours.
This would reduce the chance of abuse dramatically.

Please help discuss this as many of us who absolutely love express think this is an important issue to address.

Thanks everyone

crest23 Game profile

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Feb 4th 2012, 19:28:26

I think more in the 6-8 hr range would be adequate myself. Anything is better than what we have now.
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Slagpit Game profile

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Feb 4th 2012, 19:29:13

You should carefully define what you mean by "abuse".

crest23 Game profile

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Feb 4th 2012, 19:39:45

The Nigerian Nightmare.

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 4th 2012, 20:00:26

this was discussed before xmas.

care to enlight us what's abusing on your links?

6-8 hrs would mean that country can get grabbed by same player 6-9 times per day w/o dr kicking in.

12 hrs is better so countries don't lose that much land per day.
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UBer Bu Game profile

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Feb 4th 2012, 21:10:07

24 hour DR from successful SS/PS is fine. DR from bounced grabs and special attacks are ripe for abuse, as we see set after set.
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braden Game profile

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Feb 4th 2012, 21:17:31

you need the 24h dr for any country that isn't a commie indy, otherwise they will rape cashers/farmers and they are already quite strong enough.

that or cut the landgrab gains in half, i'm down with either

blid

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Feb 4th 2012, 21:18:31

Originally posted by UBer Bu:
24 hour DR from successful SS/PS is fine. DR from bounced grabs and special attacks are ripe for abuse, as we see set after set.
Yes this
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

crest23 Game profile

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Feb 4th 2012, 21:20:09

+1.

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Marshal Game profile

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Feb 4th 2012, 23:38:17

no explanation about crest's links?
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LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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blid

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Feb 5th 2012, 19:06:14

None needed. The players are purple btw
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

bakku Game profile

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Feb 6th 2012, 1:51:18

this has been suggested tons of times and once again i agree with this idea

blid

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Feb 6th 2012, 2:00:38

maybe include ABs in DR. but not GS or bounced hits?
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Slagpit Game profile

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Feb 6th 2012, 2:03:32

There's a solution being worked out.

enshula Game profile

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Feb 6th 2012, 12:44:28

no DR for retals would be interisting

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 6th 2012, 17:14:34

and how game would see if that is retal or not?
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

blid

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Feb 6th 2012, 17:26:44

The game already does that in the last 6 hours of each set.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

enshula Game profile

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Feb 7th 2012, 6:39:34

marshal the simple version is no dr on countries that have hit you in the last x hour, perhaps up to the amount of hits they did on you

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 7th 2012, 19:31:34

works on non-alliance servers but on alliance-servers it would be complicated since not every1 does retalling.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

Rob Game profile

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Feb 8th 2012, 11:23:53

Slagpit, glad to hear a solution is being worked out.

enshula Game profile

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Feb 8th 2012, 16:19:57

nothing wrong with having an incentive to country:country retals on alliance server if it will give better gains

as long as it doesnt help landtrading, in fact the obvious implementation would nerf landtrading

currently you get

100 100 100 80 80 66 66 50 50

and so on with 47% bonus buildings on each

if a retal on a 3 DR country took 100 instead of 80 but only gave 37.6 instead of 47 ghost then you reduce the gain from 47% of what you lost to 37.6%