Honestly, it doesn't affect how much land you can have but how much more time it takes to run your 16.

EE's main argument against FA'ing yourself, doing buyouts for yourself, farming yourself etc. is that you can do whatever you want with your 16 countries.

If you want to say that it is to protect other players from being farmed then you need to turn it 180 and put GA DR on countries that are not your own.

This has always seemed to me that it shows the Admins are not very interested in FFA.

Who here(who plays FFA) WANTS the GA DR changes to remain the same?

we ARE interested in FFA; I'm not sure that self-farming is a good thing in FFA

its best way to get land, if grabs untaggeds there's a risk to get suicided and suicider with 16 countries is dangerous and returns are crappy, if attacks against other tags then some tag might get excuse to dec war and risk to lose more land than got (incl. ghosties) in retal is somewhat high.

its good that no1 thought self-farming in mehul's ffa when many had 100s of countries, they might have hit some limitation (aka bug) like 2b limit/bug.

With that sort of thinking, they may as well get rid of the war room altogether.

i love how 2 people that don't actively play FFA seem to think they know what is best for it,

just because you 1aers don't like it doesn't mean you should do game changes to a server you don't even understand or like.

qz you're full of fluff, how would you know what is good or bad for ffa.

that'd piss suiciders.

Actually, there was a limitation in mehuls ffa, and when you hit yourself too many times you were locked out of your countries for a bit :P

I know that but with hundreds of countries under other accounts unlike that it was problem.

Get rid of the DR changes in FFA. Its pointless and most of the active FFA players hate it. Doesn't change anything you wanted to change.

FFA is completely different to 1A.


In arguement to self-farming not being good. Counter argument. In order to make restarting in wars better (which i agree was a good change) you made suiciders significantly stronger. So when a suicider has 16 countries, they are way stronger in FFA, so that rules out hitting untags. In addition im pretty sure self-farming is better than farming untags to pieces, you cant say that is good. Hitting other tags isn't beneficial, i have to find 16 targets while making sure i doesn't break any ones retal policy. And when hitting people in other tags they get pissed off and do retarded things back. Suiciding, topfeeding, hitting then buying up def << thats the fluff that happens when you hit people.

In order to make someone not want to self farm. The LG mechanics would have to be completely changed to promote us to not self farm in FFA (not just a patch up of the mechanics), but in 1A they have no choice but to hit other people, so they take that risk. Current change is just annoying everyone.

as I stated above it does NOT stop self farming in the least. Do some research guys, averaging 100k acres solo was EASY to the people who took the time to figure out how to mazimize GA returns.

Same thing can happen when there is no C:C DR but the people who are lazy and don't sit down and figure out the most effective way of gaining land will have flufftier countries.

IF you wanted to eliminate Self-farming then why did you even give anyone 5 hits before DR was affected? Why not take away GA for any countries you hit in your string, or as Mehul did implement a ban for self farming.

I LOVE THE EE TEAM! Honestly, the fact that I can waste my time on a game that was abandoned so long ago makes me really appreciate what you guys have done for the community.

FFA is dieing though, and your changes and lack of effort to treat FFA as an individual server shows your lack of interest in FFA as a whole. You can say you care about FFA, but I will tell you the same thing I tell my 7 year old... "It doesn't matter what you TELL me, it matters what you SHOW me."

the changes just make the hardcore players only get max self farming hits now.

actually land wise its easier and quicker to grow in land, just takes longer per day to play ur turns

thats what i mean. those who want to spend the time.

in what way did the changes make it quicker to grow in land?

because it forces you to care too much to play sloppily

What tinman said and that mil start becomes more important

TTT