Currently the permanent bonuses are not being used other than the free GDI ones because they are so weak.

Proposed changes:
Turns +5 for 2 Bonus Points

Building Costs -6% 4 Bonus Points
Defense +2% 4 Bonus Points
Luck +2% 4 Bonus Points
Expenses -4 % 4 Bonus Points
Private Market Units +2% 4 Bonus Points
Resource Decay +12% 4 Bonus Points
Free GDI 6 Bonus points

You'll be getting approximately 38 Bonus Points in every set of express.

bonus points outside of free gdi is literally useless on the express server.

some of the one off bonuses too, are a little weak- give us more pci/food booms per, like in team you get 4 PCI for six points or whatever it is.

question: are the bonus points, being every 24 hours, of more of an advantage to a certain timezone than another, if we were to make them more powerful?

that would be my main concern; given the short length of express...

Hm, I don't think any differently than the game itself is.

Why would this matter? I don't see how this is even a discussion point. Every time zone in the world has 24 hours last I checked, it's not like there is a specific time in the day to do the bonus.

Maybe what qzjul meant was. Since express starts on Wednesday 0000HRS GT for example. If you were to take your bonuses for other servers on Tuesday 2350HRS. You would have to wait till Wednesday 2350HRS to collect your bonuses for express, which you lose out almost a day's worth of bonus which could mean alot.


Another flaw is that people who play as delayed as possible will have a greater advantage if these changes were put into place since they will enjoy the bonuses with 700+ turns.

As long as you kept taking your bonus at 23:50 you'd still get as many bonuses as everyone else. The real flaw is as you say, playing delayed. Then you wait and don't play until your building cost or expenses are way down. I think that problem has been brought up before as the reason Express doesn't do bonuses. If it did bonuses it would have just be turns and booms.

That makes no sense still. Between EE and the bonus sites, (which are shoe-ins to go down at least once a month) you would still be screwed with timing. I am about 4 days behind on bonuses in Primary because at some point or another one or two of these sites are out of commission. heck, EE was down today as well.

To blid's point, anyone can play delayed.

The server is just too fast.

Reset duration should be doubled, and turn rate halved. Market and PS durations doubled.

The extremely fast current turn rate is a big issue, because Commies specifically had to be adjusted to be able to sell 60% of all their goods instead of 35% just to balance it out.

"As long as you kept taking your bonus at 23:50 you'd still get as many bonuses as everyone else. The real flaw is as you say, playing delayed. Then you wait and don't play until your building cost or expenses are way down."

decrease the time you can hold bonus points before losing them, on the express server, and you solve this, no? if we moderately increase strength, it would make sense to moderately decrease time being able to hold them? (before losing them?---hmm, but you could still use the points, and save turns, and use the points, and save turns.. hmm, yea, i see :P)

^talking to himself again.

I do play express and i think this idea has some merit. at least thinking along the mindset that servers like express are different from the norm and should be treated that way.

Since express started, it has come a long way.

well, correcting myself when at all possible at least ;)

It is true that the only usable Permanent Bonus is GDI...but the lack of permanent bonuses don't hurt the server in my opinion.

It is good that there are differences between servers so that you cannot use the same strategy on tournament as express. For instance a C/I destock on express must be done without the expense bonus. If the expense bonus was available in any meaningful quantities it would elevate C/I scores significantly higher.

Similarly there is not much of a bushel peak in express. This is because taking corruption for 350 turns or so is often superior to stocking food. So the market wouldn't reward a decay bonus either.

I doubt stocks will ever be large enough to justify a PM regen bonus of any amount or land great enough to justify build costs.

This leaves only luck and expenses as usable. If I could get luck to 4 or 5% before playing turns, I could probably make $30M all explore. If a C/I could get expenses to 10% by end of set he could probably make $40M routinely. I don't think we want either scenario.

I say dont bother considering this change until DR is fixed. Big rocks first

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