SPECIFICALLY ABS.

I WAS JUST ABLE TO WIPE OUT 71% OF A RAGER'S BUILDINGS WITH ONLY 30 ARTILLERY BARRAGES AND 3 CHEMS. MY STARTING NETWORTH WAS AROUND HALF OF THE OPPONENT'S. ENDING WAS ABOUT EVEN.

IMMEDIATELY, ONE OF HIS COMPATRIOTS RETURNED THE FAVOR. IN 29 SUCCESSFUL ARTILLERY BARRAGES, HE WAS ONLY ABLE TO FLATTEN 24% OF MY BUILDINGS. MY ASSAILANT HAD AROUND 500% OF MY NETWORTH.

MY FIRST HIT ON THE RAGER DESTROYED 3.2% OF HIS BUILDINGS. THE FIRST HIT ON ME DESTROYED LESS THAN 1% OF MINE (0.83%).

THIS IS SILLY. THERE IS NO REASON THAT A LARGER COUNTRY SHOULD ACHIEVE SUCH POOR RESULTS AGAINST A SMALLER ONE. I SUPPOSE I CAN SEE IT FOR LAND GRABBING, BUT FOR SPECIAL ATTACKS, A LARGE COUNTRY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DESTROY THINGS JUST AS WELL AS A SMALL ONE. THE NETWORTH OF THE ASSAILANT AND TARGET SHOULD NOT EVEN COME INTO PLAY.

http://www.eestats.com/express/country/136

Killed in 80 GSes and 7 CMs? Ridiculous. Both targets were around same networth.

WAS THIS ON ALLIANCE SERVER?

MY EXAMPLE WAS, YES. THE CURRENT ITERATION OF MY NATION IS #1151. ENRAGED.

ALSO, MY INITIAL POST WAS GOING ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE ARE BACK TO THE OLD SPECIAL ATTACK FORMULAE, AND THAT THE NUMBER OF DEFENISIVE UNITS OF THE DEFENDER NO LONGER HAS ANY BEARING ON THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE DONE.

abs have been very destructive past 2 sets especially if low ab break.

The break should no longer affect the destructiveness of ABs, as of the last changeset on Alliance (announced on Announcement forum), if the code is working as announced.

in ffa it was very destructive.

UPON FURTHER EVALUATION, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT I NEGLECTED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MILITARY STRATEGY TECH. AFTER ANALYZING THE RESULTS OF A KILL RUN ONGOING RIGHT NOW, STRATEGY TECH, RATHER THAN A DISPARITY IN NET WORTH, SEEMS TO BE WHAT IS INCREASING THE RESULTS FOR SOME.

IN THE EXAMPLE CITED IN MY FIRST POST, I HAD COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF MILITARY STRATEGY TECH, AND MY ASSAILANT HAD NONE.

SORRY TO HAVE WASTED YOUR TIME, QZ!

NP :)

Sam reported a ~400% difference, but military strategy would only account for ~40% difference..

GRADY, GOOD POINT. I HADN'T BOTHERED TO DO ANY MORE MATH ONCE I REALIZED THAT I HAD NEGLECTED TO TAKE MILITARY STRATEGY TECH INTO ACCOUNT.

SPREADSHEETING IT A BIT, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE FIRST TWO HITS WERE ABERRATIONS.. AT LEAST NOT BY MUCH.

A COUNTRY LOSING 3.2% OF ITS BUILDINGS PER HIT WOULD, AFTER 30 HITS, HAVE 39% OF ITS BUILDINGS STILL STANDING. 61% DESTROYED. ADD MY 3 SUCCESSFUL CHEMS TO THAT, AND WE'RE PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE TO THE 71% DESTRUCTION I OBSERVED.

A COUNTRY LOSING 0.83% OF ITS BUILDINGS PER HIT WOULD, AFTER 29 HITS, HAVE 78.5% OF ITS BUILDINGS STILL STANDING. 21.5% DESTROYED. PRETTY CLOSE TO THE 24% I OBSERVED.

IF 0.83% IS THE BASELINE, THEN MY 140% MILITARY STRATEGY TECH SHOULD HAVE ONLY INCREASED MY LEVEL OF DESTRUCTIVITY TO 1.162% PER ATTACK. THIS SEEMS MUCH MORE REASONABLE.

IT DOES SEEM LIKE SOME OTHER FACTOR WAS COMING INTO PLAY HERE. HOWEVER I DOUBT IT WAS NETWORTH. IN THE KILL RUN I WAS OBSERVING ABOVE, SOME ASSAILANTS WITH HIGHER NETWORTH ACHIEVED SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER KILL COUNTS THAN OTHER ASSAILANTS WITH LOWER NETWORTH. IN THE CASES I LOOKED AT, THE ASSAILANTS ACHIEVING BETTER RESULTS HAD HIGHER MILITARY STRATEGY TECH, AND THOSE ACHIEVING POOR RESULTS HAD NONE. THIS WAS NEAR THE END OF THE KILL RUN, WHEN CIVILIAN DEATHS WERE IN THE 10 TO 20 PER HIT RANGE, SO IT IS NOT A LIMITATION BASED ON THE POPULATION OF THE ATTACKER AS WITH MISSILES.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT DR SOMEHOW CAME INTO PLAY? AT THE TIME WHEN MY ASSAILANT STARTED AB'ING ME, I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN APPROXIMATELY 95 HIT DR FROM BOMBING RUNS AND NUKES WHICH OCCURRED OVER THE 24 HOURS PRECEDING MY ATTACK ON MY VICTIM. I DIDN'T THINK THAT WOULD AFFECT ARTILLERY BARRAGE RESULTS THOUGH.

AND I'M SURE SOME ARE WONDERING... YES, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT MY COUNTRY WAS FULLY BUILT BEFORE ANY OF THE ARTILLERY BARRAGES HAPPENED ON EITHER SIDE. I LOGGED ON WITH 126 TURNS AND SPENT SEVERAL REBUILDING BEFORE ATTACKING, OR I WOULD HAVE LAUNCHED MANY MORE THAN 30 ARTILLERY BARRAGES.

AT ANY RATE, 3.2% DESTRUCTION PER ARTILLERY BARRAGE SEEMS A LITTLE OUT OF WHACK TO ME. I COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE MADE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 50 ATTACKS IN ONE SITTING HAD I NOT SPENT TURNS REBUILDING, AND ERASED 80% OF THE TARGET'S BUILDINGS. I AM OF THE OPINION THAT IF THE NUMBER OF DEFENDING UNITS IS NO LONGER A FACTOR, IT SHOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE FOR ONE COUNTRY TO NEARLY PARKING LOT ANOTHER IN ONE PLAY SESSION. AT LEAST NOT WITH CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS.

(SIDE NOTE: I DID LIKE THE OLD NEW ATTACK FORMULAE, WHERE THE NUMBER OF DEFENDING UNITS INFLUENCED RESULTS. I THOUGHT IT PROPERLY PUNISHED THOSE WHO LEFT GAPING HOLES IN THEIR DEFENSES. SAD TO SEE THAT GO AWAY)

Networth DOES matter. You get the best returns for any attack when NW matched, this includes ABs.

DRs don't matter for special attacks, it is ignored, other than the 45 second DR rule.