May 2nd 2012, 21:47:18
I don't see how I'm talking in circles.
Nobody is denying that hanlong and TC were cheating, as the evidence for it is there. My point a couple posts ago was that I will not blindly accept statements that other people were involved as well until I see some kind of proof, however I do recognize that it is entirely possible that others were involved, and if that is the case hopefully it will come out in time.
Also I never argued that LaF didn't benefit from the cheating, in fact I've argued just the opposite. However, I believe LaF's gains from said cheating was entirely at the alliance planning level (aka through obtaining intellegence). We didn't didn't get a bunch of free ops loading into our site, or any other sort of tangable gains like others on this thread are intimating.
Nobody is denying that hanlong and TC were cheating, as the evidence for it is there. My point a couple posts ago was that I will not blindly accept statements that other people were involved as well until I see some kind of proof, however I do recognize that it is entirely possible that others were involved, and if that is the case hopefully it will come out in time.
Also I never argued that LaF didn't benefit from the cheating, in fact I've argued just the opposite. However, I believe LaF's gains from said cheating was entirely at the alliance planning level (aka through obtaining intellegence). We didn't didn't get a bunch of free ops loading into our site, or any other sort of tangable gains like others on this thread are intimating.