#65/#4 - Earth Empires Forum

galleri

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Aug 9th 2013, 2:11:55

148 has never hit 65
Also I was just told to look at 65. Then this thread showed up also.

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Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

LATC

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Aug 9th 2013, 2:12:39

#142 I meant..

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

galleri

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Aug 9th 2013, 2:14:28

142 wasn't deleted due to the fact he spy op'd 65 several hundreds (over statement) of times, including fails, and then hit once. I think he was just mixed in by accident, if that makes sense?

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Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

galleri

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Aug 9th 2013, 2:18:45

Oh and annoymous... you can stop messaging people. Someone just reported you.

<cloud-rasp> It’s real bad
<cloud-rasp> DDOSing my DESTOCK

Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

galleri

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Aug 9th 2013, 2:25:35

After giving thoughts to this, I have decided to restore 65, 4 , and 55. Due to the fact that yes this is considered coordination it was not really stated as a rule to part of the coordination clause.
From here on out, it will be considered coordination and the next time I will delete in the future. Not to worry, I will be posting it to the rules.
have a good night, have a good rest of the set boys. And any girls that might be here.

<cloud-rasp> It’s real bad
<cloud-rasp> DDOSing my DESTOCK

Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

blid

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Aug 9th 2013, 2:26:56

That's cool, it's always good to know something is definitely not allowed ahead of time instead of just after the fact. Thanks galleri :)

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

qwertyh

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Aug 9th 2013, 2:59:03

Umm..thanks..yeah..touche..cool...

LATC

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Aug 9th 2013, 3:03:04

Thanks galleri, that's what I was hoping for.. having explicit rules for what counts as coordination and what doesn't.

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

BobbyATA

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Aug 9th 2013, 3:11:15

Thanks galleri, I think that is fair.

I agree w/ LATC, I'm happy we have come out of this with more explicit rules moving forward!

Serpentor

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Aug 9th 2013, 3:27:37

So both my D allies are alive again?

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blid

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Aug 9th 2013, 3:29:37

Serp's d-ally saga is the best ongoing story of this set

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

galleri

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Aug 9th 2013, 3:48:30

You all owe blid a kiss. I won't say why ;)

And yes Serp!

<cloud-rasp> It’s real bad
<cloud-rasp> DDOSing my DESTOCK

Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

qwertyh

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Aug 9th 2013, 3:50:44

Pretty sure we're all guys here galleri.....

galleri

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Aug 9th 2013, 3:51:24

But I am not! I don't want to discriminate!

<cloud-rasp> It’s real bad
<cloud-rasp> DDOSing my DESTOCK

Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

blid

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Aug 9th 2013, 3:54:56

Originally posted by qwertyh:

Pretty sure we're all guys here galleri.....

Pucker up baby

Edited By: blid on Aug 9th 2013, 3:57:03
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Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

qwertyh

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Aug 9th 2013, 4:08:14

You are going have to wait a long long time for that Blid. But don't worry I won't forget!

In any case, what is to be done about Karim's country? Now that it is obvious that he still has acres and still has 0 defense.

Serpentor

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Aug 9th 2013, 4:40:50

I don't think we'll have to wait long. It'll be dust soon for 20a a pop. :(

And I guess this is bad for me really... Almost 50,000 acres of Indy are back in play on the server. At least I have D allies again though. Lol

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Xinhuan

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Aug 9th 2013, 4:45:23

Karim... Next time you want to quit, just self-delete. None of this giving your friends free land stuff... See what Herbs/Metgyl did earlier this reset - announced intention to quit, buy up MILLIONS of turrets and then self-delete.

I don't see how this is fair that both qwertyh and LATC got free land "because you are nice".

Karim

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Aug 9th 2013, 4:45:31

If you guys want i can self delete, or the mods can delete me: i was just feeling bad for the people that got deleted for it (it's obvious i didn't do this for personal benefits so i hope i won't be called "a cheater" for this).

I am leaving today as i told you, and won't be coming back before the end of august.

You might want to camp my country until then.

Have a great reset ladies and gentlemen :)

-[Panzer Division MD]-

Xinhuan

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Aug 9th 2013, 4:48:37

Karim, the concern isn't about the "cheating". It is about a significant unfair advantage granted to 2 other players at no risk of retaliation.

If anything, you would have been retalling if you weren't going away on a trip, and they shouldn't have gotten free acres. The right thing to do is for qwertyh and LATC to drop the free acres, (or for galleri to drop the acres) after been reinstated.

Karim

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Aug 9th 2013, 4:53:18

I do agree with you Xin: if this wasn't to be done, then i should be deleted and the players that grabbed me should be reverted back to as they were before attacking me.

I'll let them do what they think is better for the game.

-[Panzer Division MD]-

Karim

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Aug 9th 2013, 4:55:05

Oh, my personal concern IS about cheating: never cheated and wouldn't like to be considered a cheater for this from now on ;)

Also because i wear my alliance tag and i do care about my personal and my clan reputation here.

-[Panzer Division MD]-

Xinhuan

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Aug 9th 2013, 5:00:32

I do not think you cheated. Clearly you didn't. However, I think you coordinated, and that isn't allowed.

As a extreme example, harassing, or spamming other players, or advertising is against the rules, it is not allowed. You can get deleted for doing any of these things, but it isn't cheating.

Serpentor

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Aug 9th 2013, 5:11:34

Don't worry Karim you didn't cheat one bit. You quit after today anyhow. You simply offered it to us, and it was up to us to take the risk or not. I'm too chicken of being deleted, so I couldn't do it.

Xin, Dropping the land??. That'll be a tough sell to say the least. :-D

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Xinhuan

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Aug 9th 2013, 5:11:43

Basically my opinion is that being deleted is probably a bit overharsh, and reinstating them is fine.

But I think the free acres gained should be removed from the countries that gained them, otherwise I would view this as "they coordinated and got away with it because the rules were grey".

Xinhuan

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Aug 9th 2013, 5:16:42

I'll also put it out there that I THINK galleri has no power to edit anyone's country (outside of the country name), I have never seen anyone's country ever get edited/reverted before, so the punishments available right now is either be deleted, or not be deleted, I believe some middle ground is needed.

oldman

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Aug 9th 2013, 5:19:52

qzjul has the access to do that though.

Remember my missing land bug in primary last set?
http://forums.earthempires.com/...z=missing-land-in-primary

qzjul added the missing land back to my country.

oldman

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Aug 9th 2013, 5:39:43

oh btw, Karim, I think you should just drop your land down to 100 acre or something really low if you can't delete your country yet. The DR's gonna wear off and you know there'll be vultures out there camping for your land.

Serpentor

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Aug 9th 2013, 6:25:35

Dr won't wear off.

Edited By: Serpentor on Aug 9th 2013, 6:55:50. Reason: Not a waste of time
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Serpentor

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Aug 9th 2013, 6:31:00

And I did spy op first just to make sure since he's been open to the public for several hours.

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Xinhuan

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Aug 9th 2013, 6:34:56

Considering you gained 970 acres from the "waste of time 40a grabs", how is that a waste of time? It was worth more land than either of your 2 "real grabs", turns that you would otherwise have spent exploring.

Xinhuan

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Aug 9th 2013, 6:39:54

Also, I Retal With Spy Ops (#63) sent me a message telling me his break.

Now I don't know if this guy has been sending everyone that message, or if it has been a response to the new rule that "messaging people and telling them your break....is also a deletable offense." posted by galleri.

But I also noticed you just grabbed him directly before your "waste of time grabs that gained more land than my other grabs".

Edited By: Xinhuan on Aug 9th 2013, 6:45:40
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Serpentor

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Aug 9th 2013, 6:50:58

Well I guess not waste of time but not 6000 acres. It's been public knowledge all day. Can't let it go out of DR and have someone else gain 5000 acres on me too.

And the other guy doesnt have 0 D at all. He's just messing with Galleri. So I spied and LG'd him as he really was the best target at my 1/4 range.

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Xinhuan

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Aug 9th 2013, 6:58:34

Then we just opened a can of worms. Does a country gain "immunity" from being grabbed for fear of "coordination" if he legitimately sends his break in a message?

If he gets deleted for sending that message, then does that count as baiting top players to get deleted? Adding 2+2, it is probably Annonymousone fluffing around in the other thread: http://forums.earthempires.com/...31179&z=annonymousone

The message sent says he has 0 D, which Serp just disproved.

galleri

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Aug 9th 2013, 13:29:55

He is not the only one. I had someone else that took the bait and then messaged me after seeing the forums. At this time due to the circumstances of someone just acting like a vaginal wash, I am not going to delete.

But xin...if you see my post I believe I posted that sending out your breaks will also grant deletions.

<cloud-rasp> It’s real bad
<cloud-rasp> DDOSing my DESTOCK

Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.