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Nov 2nd 2013, 8:00:18

No one's outted me... so, even tho I've outted myself and no one beyond a half dozen paid attention, I'm not saying a damned word on the subject.

And now to pull the woman card. If you don't know, I am not going to tell you. :P

I know who Vanilla is... and I have been in RD long enough to say that Mr. Red was Ampy, and she was given MD's blessing in joining RD as a color as even back then, MD wanted the true identities of every color. They thought that if they found out who everyone was, they'd be able to expose everyone hoping they'd quit or something.

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Oct 30th 2013, 17:44:16

Xinhuan, I am not arguing that, and have in fact told qzjul himself that I believe he is justified for everything he's done. I won't contest that some of RD has cheated, and will be as graceful to say that I am not the least bit outraged at my being deleted, because of the fact that this was done via proxies, it's hard to determine who are involved and as a means of punishing those responsible, and not wanting to risk deleting the innocent and letting the guilty remain, there had to be some collateral damage.

I fully accept why I was deleted, and have moved on... others haven't. I would still like to reiterate, I rarely checked the site, as I devote more of my attention to other servers and my involvement with RD is just as merely another member in the tag. I do understand that if I had been playing in any other alliance this set, my country would have been completely unaffected by these deletions, and I do not hold anything personal against anyone, let alone the game admins for my deletion.

I restarted, but for the most part, again... I devote more attention to other servers to really care what happens to my country here... let alone pay attention to what goes on here most of the time. Because of the deletions, and as of yet any effort by RD to regroup or even address this issue without some flame war, I do not really see why my playing this set is really needed, and will be focusing my attentions elsewhere until I see something constructive on RD's end as I do not see any reason to continue playing until those responsible come forward, and are removed from the alliance. Until this happens, I am minimizing my participation with RD matters from here on in. I have an alliance on the Free For All server, and since these deletions more or less put an end to this war, I see no reason to continue fighting or regrouping until this matter is resolved. So with that, my attentions are going to be devoted to my FFA Alliance. I know how some of you feel about the FFA server, but if anything I'd like to have some of you there.

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Oct 30th 2013, 16:56:38

Okay, after speaking with qzjul about the issue of these advantages, I was told it was in regards to information gained from the individual sites themselves, and the only in-game advantage we would have had would have been of any particular alliance's in game plans, like LCN asking EVO and PDM to come to their aid and knowing said alliances would be coming to aid LCN, before either alliance had announced their intentions to join said war.

So, knowing what this is about, I do see what you mean.

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Oct 30th 2013, 16:06:17

Okay... I'm still trying to be completely respectful here.

I have no issue with "taking the licks" as you have so eloquently put it. But, I rarely logged into the RD site, I still —do not know— anything about these so called "advantages" everyone has been smacking me upside the head about.

I'll be honest, I understand when some are poking fun for the sake of relieving their frustration, I can understand the frustration of the wronged parties in all of this, I can. I can own up to my own fluff ups, and take my beatings when I've done wrong. I've cheated —once— before in Earth Empires Free For All, by having multiple accounts, and getting deleted was enough to make me not want to do it again, especially after getting ridiculed for it for almost three consecutive sets about it.
Then, my girlfriend who was also safelisted went and did it, and because we were playing from the same computer, I got hit too. Regardless of making my case to the admins back then, I couldn't get my countries reinstated, so I had to restart... I then spent another couple of sets having to prove myself.

As disappointed as I am about getting deleted, the country doesn't matter... Sure, I was miffed about having my efforts wasted, but a couple shots of whiskey and a few cigarettes later I got over it, I've already restarted. What matters more to me is that not everyone sees the fact that yes, while the legit players had to suffer because of the guilty, those whose rampant accusations continue to run wild about all of this continue to blame everyone who were RD as if we all knew about it, encouraged it, supported it or whatever.

I am still trying to figure out what this so called "advantage" is/was and how I would have even benefitted from it, because as I have repeatedly said in various posts besides this one, I rarely visited the RD site, and would like to know how I could have had some kind of advantage.

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Oct 30th 2013, 15:47:41

*buys martian a keg of beer, that is also a robot pony... with a CD of the My Little Pony theme!*

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Oct 30th 2013, 14:39:01

I am seriously trying to be respectful about this. I was pissed about getting deleted, and wasn't so worried about the country being deleted as I was about being lumped into the same category as the few imbeciles who went and pulled this stupid fluff in the first place.

I know, that had I been tagged any other alliance this set, my country would have been unaffected by this. I just believe that you guys could at least recognize those who have the integrity to address the issue, call it for what it is, and move on. It happened, we all got fluffed. Rubbing it in isn't going to undo what's happened, and pissing off those who had nothing to do with it isn't going to win you any friends.

I have no beef with any of you from EVO, LCN or PDM, I have friends in alliances all over this server, as some of them also play other servers. I would just appreciate it if you would please refrain from blaming the whole of us for something a few did.

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Oct 30th 2013, 14:24:22

You know, as one of the legit playing people in RD, I was looking forward to fighting this war with you guys until the end, regardless of who won. For me this was actually getting fun.

This whole thing was in many ways a kick in the teeth for me, and had this not happened, I looked forward to whatever would have happened. I'm not bitter over this, and just wish that everyone would realize that not all of us support what these few cheating fluffs did, and should realize that some of us didn't know about it until Pang's post hit AT. I cannot speak for everyone in RD, but this war was fun while it lasted.

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Oct 30th 2013, 14:16:16

Oh my god. Seriously. Everyone, and I mean —EVERYONE— needs to drop this fluffing preconceived assumption that —EVERYONE— in Reservoir Dogs all knew what was going on.

* None of us got a memo that the three flufftards in RD were doing this.
* Most of us didn't even know what had happened until Pang's post on AT.
* None of us knew quite what the fluff happened when we logged into our countries to see we were deleted.
* I still have no fluffing clue exactly what "advantage" we had from these flufftards hacking the Boxcar server, or their attempts as Pang has said, to hack EE.

As far as I know, just from reading Pang's post, these fluffers hacked their way into the BCH sites of other alliances, which also constitutes as spying as they were using this ill-gotten access to get information. What I don't know is the information they gained or how it was used. I am still in the dark as to what supposed "advantage" we all had, and how our countries in the game somehow benefited from it.

I am not pissed about my country being deleted. I am pissed that people who outside of those directly affected by this, have gone on to assume they know everything, believing that even without knowing about these stupid fluffing actions taken by a few were supported by those remaining legitimate players, or that by our not knowing about them until it was addressed in Pang's post, that we some how were supportive or complicit in this.

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Oct 30th 2013, 13:57:02

Okay... to reference a post I'd made in Pang's thread about this whole thing that has only been read by Taveren, and respectfully commented on without any fluff-talk or slanderous bullfluff. (thank you by the way)

Originally posted by Mr Jade:
Originally posted by Taveren:
A number of users have questioned the morality of deleting the entire tag. Others have stated that they feel sorry for those who were wrongfully deleted. The users who were victims of this security breach empathize with those in RD who did nothing wrong.

With the exception of Locket who mentioned it in passing, no RD member has expressed any kind of regret toward the other victims. First came the demands of proof, then came the outrage over LaF's inconsistent punishment, then the belief that the availability of the information invalidates the means by which it was gathered. RD seems to have failed to recognize how the rest of the server feels.

LaF expressed regret over it's activities in May 2012 and committed itself to change. All we've seen here is attempts to discredit, attempts at justification, and deflection. Does anyone in RD even believe that members of their alliance have done wrong?


Look, I feel bad this happened, I am righteously pissed off at the few in this alliance who had gone out of their way to go ahead and do something this fluffed up. I wasn't involved in any of the actions taken by the few who did perpetrate this, as I rarely even visited the site. But at the same time the Admins know of at least TWO of the people who did this, and instead of taking administrative action against those that they KNOW did this, they've punished the entire alliance. I am not trying to discredit anyone, justify anything or deflect a fluffing thing. I will fully say it: YES THESE fluffERS CHEATED. Reading the original post of this thread was the only way I was made aware of it... and I am still furious.

I will also say that in the years since I have played in Alliance Server, this is the first time I have EVER been deleted, and it wasn't even my fluffing fault. The ONLY reason I am pissed off about being deleted, is the fact that because of this entire "guilty by association" mindset, my country being "deleted for rules violations" because of the actions taken by a few... STILL paints me in a negative light, regardless of having played legitimately since the second set of Alliance Server (for those who would try and twist this, I didn't play the first set).

I can say that there are those in RD who are also righteously pissed off at the actions taken by the few who did perpetrate this, I can say that there are those in RD that are pissed at those responsible, and have demanded that they step down from leadership and/or are removed from the alliance altogether. We still do not know of the third person responsible for this, as of yet no one has come forward. Some have already restarted and have gone on to join other tags, others have began talking about forming an entirely new alliance and just leaving the Reservoir Dogs name behind, as some believe the alliance name has been irrevocably tarnished with these events. So, in saying that you believe we haven't failed to recognize how the rest of everyone feels, is just bullfluff. We're trying to do damage control here, and we have to sift through a mountain of bullfluff in order to root out the guilty parties here so we can move on. Whether or not Reservoir Dogs survives in name after this set is irrelevant, being punished by the admins for the actions of a few is a bit harsh, but also irrelevant in the long run. Having our individual reputations damaged as a result of being unknowingly implicated in something most of us had zero knowledge of... that's what the bulk of us are pissed about. Having everyone, including the trolls and self-righteous, sanctimonious assholes saying we deserved this because those of us legitimate players played in a tag with our friends... that's ten times worse.

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Oct 30th 2013, 12:25:35

You just keep running your mouth KJ, you sanctimonious asshole.

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Oct 30th 2013, 12:22:43

TNTroXxor, Can I flat palm you in the larynx now, or later?

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Oct 30th 2013, 10:49:32

Originally posted by Taveren:
A number of users have questioned the morality of deleting the entire tag. Others have stated that they feel sorry for those who were wrongfully deleted. The users who were victims of this security breach empathize with those in RD who did nothing wrong.

With the exception of Locket who mentioned it in passing, no RD member has expressed any kind of regret toward the other victims. First came the demands of proof, then came the outrage over LaF's inconsistent punishment, then the belief that the availability of the information invalidates the means by which it was gathered. RD seems to have failed to recognize how the rest of the server feels.

LaF expressed regret over it's activities in May 2012 and committed itself to change. All we've seen here is attempts to discredit, attempts at justification, and deflection. Does anyone in RD even believe that members of their alliance have done wrong?


Look, I feel bad this happened, I am righteously pissed off at the few in this alliance who had gone out of their way to go ahead and do something this fluffed up. I wasn't involved in any of the actions taken by the few who did perpetrate this, as I rarely even visited the site. But at the same time the Admins know of at least TWO of the people who did this, and instead of taking administrative action against those that they KNOW did this, they've punished the entire alliance. I am not trying to discredit anyone, justify anything or deflect a fluffing thing. I will fully say it: YES THESE fluffERS CHEATED. Reading the original post of this thread was the only way I was made aware of it... and I am still furious.

I will also say that in the years since I have played in Alliance Server, this is the first time I have EVER been deleted, and it wasn't even my fluffing fault. The ONLY reason I am pissed off about being deleted, is the fact that because of this entire "guilty by association" mindset, my country being "deleted for rules violations" because of the actions taken by a few... STILL paints me in a negative light, regardless of having played legitimately since the second set of Alliance Server (for those who would try and twist this, I didn't play the first set).

I can say that there are those in RD who are also righteously pissed off at the actions taken by the few who did perpetrate this, I can say that there are those in RD that are pissed at those responsible, and have demanded that they step down from leadership and/or are removed from the alliance altogether. We still do not know of the third person responsible for this, as of yet no one has come forward. Some have already restarted and have gone on to join other tags, others have began talking about forming an entirely new alliance and just leaving the Reservoir Dogs name behind, as some believe the alliance name has been irrevocably tarnished with these events. So, in saying that you believe we haven't failed to recognize how the rest of everyone feels, is just bullfluff. We're trying to do damage control here, and we have to sift through a mountain of bullfluff in order to root out the guilty parties here so we can move on. Whether or not Reservoir Dogs survives in name after this set is irrelevant, being punished by the admins for the actions of a few is a bit harsh, but also irrelevant in the long run. Having our individual reputations damaged as a result of being unknowingly implicated in something most of us had zero knowledge of... that's what the bulk of us are pissed about. Having everyone, including the trolls and self-righteous, sanctimonious assholes saying we deserved this because those of us legitimate players played in a tag with our friends... that's ten times worse.

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Oct 30th 2013, 7:19:16

1 Russian IP
5 American IPs
3 Romanian IPs
13 Dutch IPs

This in an of itself, would say at least four are involved, wouldn't it?

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Oct 30th 2013, 7:17:00

I started as a Monarchy... I switched to Fascist... as I was wanting to netgain before LCN declared war on us. I switched to Theocracy... I had been getting my structures bombed, and I was selling food to rebuild. Where's this fluffing advantage?

As for the IP addresses listed, I've cross referenced them. So, everyone, double-check these against any that have access in your sites.

62.76.42.236 - Moscow, Russia
64.125.188.25 - White Plains, New York, US
64.237.37.119 - Hazlet, New Jersey, US
66.249.74.40 - Mountain View, California, US
69.41.14.215 - Owosso, Michigan, US
85.17.31.120 - Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands
93.115.83.16 - Curtea De Arges, Valcea, Romania
93.115.84.122 - Curtea De Arges, Valcea, Romania
93.115.84.124 - Curtea De Arges, Valcea, Romania
109.201.152.13 - Netherlands
109.201.152.26 - Netherlands
109.201.154.148 - Netherlands
109.201.154.150 - Netherlands
109.201.154.151 - Netherlands
109.201.154.153 - Netherlands
109.201.154.156 - Netherlands
109.201.154.169 - Netherlands
109.201.154.170 - Netherlands
109.201.154.171 - Netherlands
109.201.154.178 - Netherlands
188.190.120.154 - Netherlands
204.235.114.66 - Charlotte, North Carolina, US

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Oct 30th 2013, 0:39:57

Originally posted by prank:
It's funny that people are acting shocked.


Here we go with retards running on the assumption that everyone in RD knows what's going on.

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Oct 30th 2013, 0:39:07

I'm fluffing done...

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Oct 30th 2013, 0:31:29

This is beyond bullfluff...

*waits for EVO/LCN/PDM to claim some form of cheapshot victory.*

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Oct 29th 2013, 9:49:30

*shanks Marshal with Swedish vodka bottle*

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Oct 29th 2013, 9:30:35

I dunno... I think LCN are the only ones making an effort here... maybe they'll FS us with pillows or something.

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Oct 28th 2013, 15:37:21

LOL, is this serious? Also come on... EVO + RD = the Evolution of Reservoir Dogs :P

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Oct 28th 2013, 11:54:29

Now, now... this can only be resolved with light sabers, an epic battle on some planetoid battle station, a Wookie, and some other epic stuff.

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Oct 28th 2013, 11:25:57

Today in recent news, Evolution have decided to proverbially leapfrog a unicorn, after dismounting EVO from said unicorn, EVO were taken to an undisclosed medical facility for anal re-constructive surgery.

In other news, Reservoir Dogs issue reward for their missing unicorn seen last Friday night.

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Oct 28th 2013, 11:21:03

Okay... here's one

Roses are red,
violets are blue...
You fluffed with us,
so we KIIIIIILLL you!

I know... it's not a haiku...

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Oct 27th 2013, 17:37:47

Thanks for the breakfast EVO, your land was pretty tasty. :)

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Oct 27th 2013, 17:15:02

ß

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Oct 27th 2013, 16:48:38

In the name of fluff we shall vanquish Evo. :P

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Oct 27th 2013, 16:31:00

Originally posted by XiQter MD:
Originally posted by Mr Jade:
Originally posted by tellarion:
Last set you guys detagged a bunch of countries and had the same few people farm them into oblivion. Those countries made t10 by basically intrafarming land from RD. Those countries that were detagged even kept playing the rest of the set by exploring and doing enemy hits. They were effectively RD-only land farms all set.

I told you that you were being douchebags for it. You guys said you didn't care, but Silver claimed that #59 would not make t10 to try to placate me. He made t10 anyways.

If you think we at Evo will sit back as you take t10 spots from our members (we had the rank 11 country), well then...


Pay the iron price.


So, wait. Let me get this straight: LCN has dec'ed on us... and *NOW* EVO have to declare war on us... over some weak ass crybaby bullfluff regarding untagged vs tagged internal land-trading... and you elitist fluffs feeling that your tag deserves to be Top 10 all the fluffing time? Isn't this supposed to be a competition here?

Who the hell gives one fluff about land-trading, it saves people from getting the fluff farmed out of them, and saves everyone from Foreign Relations headaches... but because the land didn't come from a smaller tag, or someone with low defense, we're the bad guys? Land is land, it shouldn't matter where it came from, what should matter is the ability, or inability to defend it.

Moral Victory? You wouldn't know morals from your ass if you had two good hands, a map and a fluffing flashlight.


If that is true then why arent you guys running your bots again?
Having human landfarms is just so low tech...


*channels Valley Girl accent* Because... bots are... Soooo 2004. Sometimes, Low tech gets things done, fast. Hell, prior to 2001 no one would have considered something as low tech as flying a plane or two into a couple of buildings to be effective either...

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Oct 27th 2013, 12:06:48

Originally posted by Sov:
What I propose is a new easy mode netgainning server for those who want to be in an Alliance but do not want to participate in the heavier and more advanced aspects of Alliance gameplay. I would title this server "Easy Clan Server" which would provide a clear differentiation from the Alliance Server and further promote the Alliance Server as a more elite and advanced playing environment.

The truth is many smaller Alliances do not have the motivated and/or knowledgable leadership to thrive or grow on the Alliance Server.


Not to bust your chops or harp on your idea... an Easy Clan Server? "Promote Alliance Server as a more elite and advanced playing environment?" Many smaller alliances do not have the motivation and/or knowledgeable leadership because most of the larger alliances farm them thin, defeating any real chance of those who've played any other servers and know the ropes to display any skill. And for those new to the server, most outright quit after having their All Explore country farmed down repeatedly, making any attempt to continue playing futile if not aggravating. Then you get those who after suffering such repeated behaviour decide to strike back out of their frustrations with being reduced to nothing more than an easy landfarm, and in turn get killed. Some of those people outright quit the game and never come back, which means the player base loses one more player... now consider how many times this can happen in any given set and how many tags just decide to hang it up, or how many people just say "fluff it, I'm done." and quit. Then you have the other possibility of one of these guys deciding to become an untagged suicider. Push someone too far, and eventually they'll find a way to push back.

Originally posted by Sov:
Essentially the main difference for this proposed server would be the inability to kill countries which would be achieved through changes to special attacks and a civilian minimum floor. These would be the key differences for the server:-

- Countries can not have less than 100 civilians and therefore civilian kills cannot be achieved. Returns from special attacks would reduce to zero once a country hits 100 civilians.
- Returns from all special attacks reduced to 25% of normal, thus reducing the effectiveness of ABs, BRs, NMs, EMs and CMs in terms of harming a country.
- Land can not be lower than 20 acres which means that a landkill cannot be achieved.

This would allow the more casual playerbase to netgain peacefully whilst maintaining the social aspect which attracts them to the game. There are a number of Alliances who exist only for the social environment that has been created and the harsh nature of the Alliance Server is harmful to the existance of those Alliances.


This part sounds all well intentioned and all, but it's still not going to motivate everyone from wanting to war... This would all but make a kill impossible, and effectively make completely crippling a country in this server the only means to effectively ruin someone's set. You kill a country down to 100 civilians, this ruins their PCI... which would cripple any casher. You farm a country down to 20 Acres, any strategy like a Casher, Farmer, Techer, Indy, et cetera would be rendered ineffective, regardless of the amount of tech or cash on hand... And because the explore rate doesn't reset because some jerk-off farms you or nukes you until you're *only* 20 Acres, you're only going to get fluff for your explore rate meaning any chance you'd have in recovering any land to salvage your set would be a waste of time, you would be better of deleting your country and restarting with a brand new country.

Originally posted by Sov:
It would create an all new political playing field as Alliances seek less harmful ways of enforcing and establishing their policies, which in turn could aid in the development of better leadership skills within the playerbase.


Yes, it would create an all new political playing field. All this would serve is instead of someone worrying about their country being killed, they'd need to worry about having it completely crippled and rendered useless to continue playing. This in and of itself would cause some to quit in frustration.

Originally posted by Sov:
Whilst this will mean that Alliance Server will lose players and tags, I do believe that in the longterm it will be more productive for the game in general as it would encourage some of those small and casual Alliances to thrive and increase player retention. This would also promote and encourage the maintanence of healthier and stronger tags on the Alliance Server and provide an additional recruiting base for those tags.


I don't believe for a minute that this would cause the loss of players in Alliance Server as there are those who already play on every server as it is. This new server would be a great place for new players to start, but as far as promoting the maintenance of healthier and stronger tags... Just from my perspective, it sounds more like trying to establish one bloc of players/tags as being better than the rest of the server and trying to establish Alliance as being for elitists only.

Originally posted by Sov:
A new server would be attractive for more active players to play additional countries which would also lead to the creation of other new tags. This may in time encourage the creation of newer tags on the Alliance Server as players from that new server look to step up and play in the more advanced setting of Alliance Server.


While this part of your idea holds some merit, this effective creates some forgone conclusion of the idea of playing on one of the already established servers like Free For All or Team where clans are allowed. This new server idea would effectively create some disillusionment, as players would go from this new server to Alliance Server, where they'd had it easy there to fniding that unlike this new server... the rules would be quite different. The game mechanics would he drastically different, and instead of worrying about getting their population trimmed down to 100 civilians or 20 acres before someone stopped hitting them, they'd find out that all it would take is for someone with a higher SPAL or tons of Warfare tech to kill them with ease.


Originally posted by Sov:
Pros:-
- Additonal advertising revenue for the game.
- Expansion of the playerbase through creation of a more casual gameplay environment.
- Higher player retention for the game overall.

Cons:-
- Slight decrease in playerbase on Alliance Server, at least in the short term.
- Time and effort to create the server and manage thereafter.

It is important that this Server would be distinguished as an easy server as to promote a more elite status for the Alliance Server and a "next step" for propsering tags and ambitious leaders.


Let's tackle the pro's first. Realistically, as far as increasing advertising revenue, this is the only 'pro' I can see coming out of this. Expanding the player base? Sure, if virtually every new player of this game starts with this server first before deciding which one best suited their tastes, but in all reality you'd more likely have the same players from the six servers we currently have playing in this one, along with some of the new people who happen to come across this game. As far as higher player retention? Sure, if everything was made easier, it might make it more fun and attract more people to play in this new server... but, alas... Any accomplishments made in this server would always be chalked up to it being an 'easy' netgaining server, and because of the elitist mindsets in Alliance Server, any comparisons would be met with the fact that this new server was made for the 'unskilled' or the 'uninitiated'.

As far as the con's, again with something I stated above, I do not believe anyone would outright stop playing Alliance Server just because a new server was established where anyone can have an easy time netgaining. If anything this new server would be a great place for players to test strategies and that would be it, nothing any player accomplished in this server would be considered on par with a similar accomplishment an any of of the other servers as it's an "Easy Mode" server. It would be like me bragging about a $9,223,372,036,854,775,808 Networth country on one of the Alpha servers.



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Oct 27th 2013, 10:34:12

A 7th server? Or just ax one to replace it with Limited? Limited could replace Team server. :P

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Oct 27th 2013, 9:47:00

Originally posted by tellarion:
Last set you guys detagged a bunch of countries and had the same few people farm them into oblivion. Those countries made t10 by basically intrafarming land from RD. Those countries that were detagged even kept playing the rest of the set by exploring and doing enemy hits. They were effectively RD-only land farms all set.

I told you that you were being douchebags for it. You guys said you didn't care, but Silver claimed that #59 would not make t10 to try to placate me. He made t10 anyways.

If you think we at Evo will sit back as you take t10 spots from our members (we had the rank 11 country), well then...


Pay the iron price.


So, wait. Let me get this straight: LCN has dec'ed on us... and *NOW* EVO have to declare war on us... over some weak ass crybaby bullfluff regarding untagged vs tagged internal land-trading... and you elitist fluffs feeling that your tag deserves to be Top 10 all the fluffing time? Isn't this supposed to be a competition here?

Who the hell gives one fluff about land-trading, it saves people from getting the fluff farmed out of them, and saves everyone from Foreign Relations headaches... but because the land didn't come from a smaller tag, or someone with low defense, we're the bad guys? Land is land, it shouldn't matter where it came from, what should matter is the ability, or inability to defend it.

Moral Victory? You wouldn't know morals from your ass if you had two good hands, a map and a fluffing flashlight.

Edited By: Mr Jade on Oct 27th 2013, 9:49:59. Reason: Midas well...
See Original Post

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Oct 25th 2013, 9:49:20

iScode, I'll be sure to do that, I just need to get caught up on my land and then I'll do so. :)

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Oct 25th 2013, 9:46:35

Indeed.

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:51:05

"You and me go fishin' In the dark lyin' on our backs and countin' the stars, Where the cool grass grows, down by the river"

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:49:50

Feck... I bungled that one.

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:47:49

You and me, go fishing in the dark, lying on the grass and countin' the stars while the cool wind blows...

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:46:18

Hello. My name is Nero. You can catch me on a balcony somewhere fiddling away as the world burns.

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:45:23

Also... the life expectancy thing... there's the fact that not everyone can afford adequate health care, and many people die everyday from things that with some preventative medicine, or an operation could save your life. It's pretty damned sad how saving people's lives has turned into a business decision.

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:39:40

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Mr Jade

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:38:47

Indeed.

Mr Jade

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:38:08

High fructose corn syrup is better... especially when it comes in 2 liter bottles... with caffeine and flavoring.

Mr Jade

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:28:16

Sure... count my vote in.

Mr Jade

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:26:21

Now, what would have been worse, martian, is LaF getting every member of N*SYNC to sing their war dec.

Mr Jade

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:23:33

At least we don't have to deal with Hanlong returning, right?

Mr Jade

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:23:03

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Mr Jade

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:22:40

fat sucking aliens, you say?

Mr Jade

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Oct 25th 2013, 8:21:06

Fo'shizzle.