congrats nice score :)

Congrats All!!!

I was:

11 Ergastulanu (#61) 15,531 $14,805,439 FG

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 Raw Power (#50) 27,138 $51,298,749 TG
2 iUsedToBeGoodButNowISuck (#7) 22,025 $50,338,854 HG
3 Python (#17) 12 $30,758,238 HG
4 long sleeve shirts (#4) 14,356 $30,243,746 TG
5 I got a lump of COAL (#6) 18,695 $28,519,839 HG
6 nEkKiDsAnTa (#83) 9654 $25,020,021 DG
7 knee deep (#13) 24,669 $24,767,261 CG
8 Samadhi (#12) 17,561 $18,607,525 C
9 Make earth empires great again (#87) 15,917 $16,463,378 RG
10 Where The Shadows Lie (#45) 10,275 $15,106,743 HG

11 Ergastulanu (#61) 15,531 $14,805,439 FG
12 Silver (#73) 14,876 $13,770,184 R
13 Vram (#86) 17,084 $12,959,631 F
14 Headless Eyeballs (#85) 14,135 $11,300,496 HG
15 ElvisIsKing (#52) 6928 $11,187,417 C
16 Y been (#91) 15,712 $10,848,291 RG
17 Nasty Gold Scissor (#37) 9090 $9,698,930 H
18 Yodelers Ruthless (#47) 9812 $9,042,064 H
19 satoshi nakamoto (#9) 12,790 $8,898,838 HG
20 Sofia Digger Redbeard (#46) 14,538 $8,892,722 R

21 Steady Mobbin (#90) 18,677 $8,837,028 CG
22 Eldor Riandur Sutlin (#77) 11,182 $8,754,583 DG
23 Johnny Harker Gully (#72) 9479 $8,282,921 H
24 Ursulawekmar (#82) 11,895 $8,207,766 H
25 ThePassage (#26) 16,631 $8,065,710 RG

Merry Christmas 🎄🎄🎄

Merry Christmas and Happy New Years.

merry

Nice finish Stryke

I was:


11 ninna nanna malandrineddu (#40) 13,313 $10,478,429 FG

Congrats all!!! :)

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 Mr Titanium Broke Da Bots (#12) 15,353 $21,964,904 CG
2 Thirty 00 Six (#30) 12,061 $19,550,290 DG
3 World Of Tankers (#9) 13,607 $14,832,123 RG
4 A M A T E R A S U (#10) 11,470 $13,571,175 HG
5 (#35) 12,994 $12,711,232 CG
6 3 balloons (#8) 11,644 $12,169,945 HG
7 Is that AHOLE here (#32) 14,680 $12,085,823 HG
8 LION (#26) 10,804 $11,521,587 DG
9 2000 maniacs (#38) 12,085 $11,012,636 HG
10 Ihavenoideawhatimdoing (#19) 6255 $10,548,371 HG

11 ninna nanna malandrineddu (#40) 13,313 $10,478,429 FG
12 Lysergic Bliss (#31) 14,098 $10,335,859 C
13 botkiller (#1) 8182 $9,781,064 HG
14 Where The Shadows Lie (#2) 11,487 $9,630,259 HG
15 Mind over Force (#20) 11,864 $8,990,022 RG
16 Ifd (#47) 13,825 $8,399,346 RG
17 Mesilla Madness (#6) 10,651 $8,354,811 RG
18 Youre a Mean One Mr Tits (#11) 10,435 $7,724,958 RG
19 Rudolf theredbeakdChicken (#36) 11,766 $7,539,734 TG
20 Fat Santa Smelly Man (#13) 7725 $7,220,072 HG

21 kerafyrm (#48) 11,478 $6,971,855 IG
22 Worm34 (#17) 10,552 $5,284,159 H
23 Steady Mobbin (#23) 6608 $5,060,703 RG
24 Troopin n Poopin (#7) 10,695 $4,891,389 CG
25 Will Over Retal (#22) 12,654 $4,758,567 FG

definitely an interesting round with the bots down...

Congrats to all :)

26 Comancheros (#7) 14,408 5,807,967

lol, woke up 2 minutes after the round ended

looks like someone bought the stuff I had on the market in the last few minutes too :p

2019-12-16 00:00 26 Comancheros (#7) 14,408 5,807,967 DG Alive N
2019-12-15 23:35 21 Comancheros (#7) 14,408 6,660,041 DG Alive N

had a minimum 1.5 bil cash before the buy out above

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 AZN Is The Greatest Waller Alive (#26) 26,682 $31,213,939 CG
2 into the unknown (#4) 9870 $23,319,839 HG
3 On time to the Party (#15) 12,445 $21,519,987 HG
4 Where The Shadows Lie (#19) 9720 $18,395,953 HG
5 flip (#93) 8702 $17,191,521 DG
6 (#56) 19,157 $16,605,556 CG
7 boobs (#12) 15,423 $14,575,572 TG
8 Gii (#41) 14,644 $14,310,498 RG
9 Kronic Psycho (#95) 21,720 $12,469,029 TG
10 i Will fOrGet to play (#235) 14,173 $12,383,557 RG

11 XXXX (#49) 10,403 $12,222,887 HG
12 Ihavenoideawhatimdoing (#40) 11,576 $12,008,119 HG
13 Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds (#24) 9151 $11,006,655 DG
14 double ott buck (#16) 17,991 $10,109,571 FG
15 Steady Mobbin (#89) 16,705 $8,619,423 RG
16 U Will Be My Hoe Hoe Hoe (#2) 13,748 $8,587,308 HG
17 Mesilla Madness (#9) 10,713 $8,307,357 RG
18 Santa is coming in a few weeks (#10) 11,740 $8,126,617 CG
19 Its a Wonderful Life (#91) 13,251 $7,897,968 HG
20 SwordOfFrost (#53) 9525 $6,701,430 DG

21 Vectomon Sothale Sithik (#23) 12,754 $6,510,915 RG
22 Cougar Lover (#99) 12,840 $6,507,487 HG
23 Friends of Actar (#18) 12,690 $5,998,234 RG
24 kentuckyfriedChicken (#242) 12,256 $5,973,934 CG
25 Greste Van cruel (#33) 11,848 $5,817,738 R

@sinistril when you explain it this way it makes a lot more sense... would we still keep baseline pros and cons per country tough? I still feel there should be some kind of offset when enhancing the pro side of a country. I do not understand what you mean by the cons would naturally materialize. If I use my point for farming, what would the con be? even if someone used their point for cashing it would just be both of us optimizing our selected strat.

I agree with the randomizer being a bad idea the more I think about it.

just straight hybrids using exiting formulas should be easier at the start, minimizing the amounts of code needing to writen as this would just need adjusting when there is a conflict in the formulas --- a country precedence could actually take care of this for the order in which the formulas are applied. then conflicts are applied on an odd or even based turn count.

well the person who hit me got purpled... have not seen this much purple and red in ages... at least it was early reset...

Osloos have not seen that name in a long while... hmm still have Bug & Osloos calc and formula spreadsheet on the drive somewhere.

there should be an all-x check box that keeps those like #12 away .. you can still get land grabbed, perhaps with a cap on DRs and a nerfed return on land. oh and a 1:1 retal policy that does not break GDI, so no threat of missiles or Detah for taking your land back.

if we do it this way then all we would need is to modify monarchy, unless you limit the selection list to the gov types chosen.

if it's just one gov type then all the netters will be concentrating on finding the best possible combination
same for war countries, you end up where we are now, with just a few overpowered strats. we would lose a lot of the strategic depth the suggestion is trying to enhance. players would just select the 3 best pros and 3 least detrimental cons for war or netting or start with a war selection to land grab and then switch to netting selection on land goal.

maybe randomize an extra 2 pros and two cons the player can switch/trade out with bonus points.
the randomizer selects these on creation of country so the player can decide on how to best use these when selecting their hybrid gov types. If provided after the hybrid selection is made then it could prove out to be detrimental with no way out.

alternately just keep the gov types asis and locked in, then let the player select one pro and one con from the full list to be added on with bonus points. this enhancement can also be switched out with bonus points. however this could also destroy the games strategic depth when offsetting a con with a pro and/or using a con to minimize an asis con.

a randomizer would add an unknown factor ... a player may end up playing a strat they would normally bypass in the game today. the downside could be a player deletes their country to try for a different randomized selection, unless its locked into the account and not the country itself.

the other part is would a player be allowed to switch one or both gov types using current rules.

well you did a whole lot better than I ever could have, after all those hits you took :)

Congrats to all!!!

mine was:

8 Kashmir (#94) 19,522 $18,010,518 DG

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 Cross Server Retal (#24) 35,553 $42,424,242 CG
2 yuuppppp (#6) 9984 $26,394,837 DG
3 The Grinch who stole your land (#15) 23,746 $25,449,149 HG
4 Enemy at the Gate (#35) 18,021 $25,055,182 HG
5 victoria bitter (#1) 19,195 $22,285,383 HG
6 Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo (#4) 21,789 $21,227,517 CG
7 Looking for big retals watch out (#105) 14,910 $20,279,947 TG
8 Kashmir (#94) 19,522 $18,010,518 DG
9 for the first time in forever (#86) 26,710 $18,000,000 HG
10 Street junky (#13) 20,989 $16,833,177 F

11 Where The Shadows Lie (#19) 9484 $16,632,443 HG
12 Tokyo Rampage (#91) 15,801 $15,872,522 F
13 Capitalist (#83) 12,782 $14,176,213 DG
14 Steady Mobbin (#90) 25,608 $13,989,618 R
15 JustDoIt (#95) 7011 $13,221,452 DG
16 mob (#66) 11,216 $12,963,778 H
17 Netter or Greifer Notice GDI (#92) 18,884 $12,667,006 DG
18 Santa Is Coming Soon (#30) 18,955 $12,154,001 C
19 Bye Charlie Strong (#8) 10,808 $11,381,088 HG
20 blah blah blah blah (#25) 13,806 $10,892,978 HG

21 Early to the Party (#17) 10,182 $10,668,635 TG
22 World Of Tankers (#32) 16,225 $8,922,491 D
23 Commodity (#28) 13,054 $8,589,722 C
24 Mesilla Madness (#20) 12,556 $8,536,828 HG
25 Silver (#70) 11,457 $8,325,825 D

yeah I don't know what the code base looks like, heard it was a mess, but with QZ updating the API maybe this can become feasible ... dunno how hard or easy it would be though.

a tyranny dictator or fascist dictator for war or fascist commie for early war :)

demo theo or rep theo -- farmer or casher for net gaining

this would be like 3-d chess

random pro/cons could work so it would give each country it's own particular set of advantages and disadvantages some would get super lucky, others might struggle a bit to get their country under control. It would give many players a nice shot at the top 10.

but if random is too problematic then a player selection could work too, but then you end up with a handful of overpowered strats... finding those and figuring out how to best play them could take a few years.

It would give some of the great players a really good reason to comeback and truly try out and even create some new strats. It could even give some new players a chance to get their names out there with some truly amazing new strats.

definitely would be fun though.

As I was making a post in the express forum this idea just popped up and the more I think about it the more I like it. It has a great potential of revitalizing this game with hundreds of new strategies for both war and net gaining. The current strats for the game are well known and fairly old. this is a whole new dimension being added to the game and the combinatorics for new strats would be amazing.

So at the start of the round a player choose 2 government types or selects non-hybrid classic or just leave the second gov type as monarchy.

if they choose to go hybrid, then for a coding or order of execution perspective ask the player to select which country has precedence. If in the hybrid selection there is a conflict then simply average it out
i.e.
-- 3 Turns Required Per Attack (Demo) vs. Only 1 Turn Required Per Attack (tyr) -- (3+1)/2=2
-- -25% Maximum Per Capita Income (tyr) +20% Maximum Per Capita Income (Rep) (-25 + 20)/2 = -2.5

apply all other modifiers based on the players selection of which gov type has precedence.

for example:
Democracy
-- PRO
---- 0% Market Commissions
---- +10% Maximum Technology
-- CON
---- 3 Turns Required Per Attack -- this becomes 2 with a Tyranny

Communism
-- PRO
---- +20% Technology Effectiveness
---- +35% Industrial Production
---- +35% Market Sale Size Cap
CON
---- 10% Market Commissions

for the above hybrid
Turns Required Per Attack would be 3 turns (with a demo precedence) and 2 turns with a commie precedence)
alternately all odd numbered attacks take 3 turns and even numbered take 2 turns
Market Commissions would be 5%

+10% Maximum Technology
+20% Technology Effectiveness
+35% Industrial Production
+35% Market Sale Size Cap

a super power commie on the market and tech side, allowing for much lower tech levels, and higher % of goods on the market
cons being Demo loses its 0 commission and commie needs more turns when land grabbing.

anywho if you like then just plat with the idea and see what you can come up with. personally I think it would give the game a lot more depth and give some of the old timers something new to try out

... what kind of hybrid country would you build if the game let you do so?

confirmed --

As a long term and cherished member of the community we felt it was high time we present KoH with the keys to the express server. These keys among other thing will allow KoH to break the rules at anytime as he so chooses to do so. Another privilege granted to our cherished key holders is to randomly purple and un-purple any country they so choose to eliminate or restore at their own discretion. A bonus 2000 acres and 200 turns is also provide to use at will, along with hybrid governments such as Demo/Dictators where they have all the benefits Dictator and the market and tech advantages of a Democracy. We would like at this time to welcome KoH to the Key Holder Club and present to him this certificate of outstanding community membership.

Tigress
Happy Hunting

speech, speech, speech...

welcome back hkyhed -- express has always been one of the best servers:)

nice :) -- great finish ... hopefully 72 leaves you alone going forward.

congrats to all !!!

thank you

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 TVC15 (#75) 24,589 $31,582,582 TG
2 Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria (#3) 26,162 $28,765,847 CG
3 deepmind bot (#7) 17,459 $24,834,497 HG
4 Ihavenoideawhatimdoing (#24) 9816 $14,632,045 HG
5 Steady Mobbin (#93) 17,591 $14,587,108 RG
6 gotnostratagem (#4) 16,485 $12,898,796 FG
7 World Of Tankers (#13) 15,511 $12,696,806 RG
8 Tigress (#95) 19,672 $12,517,611 DG
9 Torx Screwdriver (#50) 11,171 $12,368,691 FG
10 yes no maybe (#20) 25,976 $12,142,034 T

11 Seaweed Salad (#12) 12,669 $12,113,393 F
12 Matsf (#102) 15,170 $12,038,990 R
13 (#94) 7990 $11,613,252 TG
14 1st Battalion (#97) 18,697 $11,378,603 HG
15 Suicider (#110) 12,807 $10,696,644 RG
16 This one is on you buddy (#18) 13,814 $10,059,948 IG
17 Mr Plutonium (#6) 14,785 $9,999,999 RG
18 Amaterasu (#2) 11,680 $9,626,855 HG
19 Late to the Party (#103) 23,399 $9,271,505 IG
20 Mesilla Madness (#10) 11,912 $7,971,083 HG

21 Supersonic Lady Student (#58) 13,913 $7,804,323 R
22 Earth 2025 is flat (#15) 14,168 $7,729,276 TG
23 Negation of the Negation (#25) 13,723 $7,670,717 C
24 Not Testing Things Nor Stuff (#8) 8589 $7,644,463 DG
25 Modern Heavy Juggler (#83) 13,695 $7,099,169 R

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I5pZrTSP6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_KQ56D9geI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENKTZA_BeUs

e perche non ti piace? e buona musica... cosa stai a dire?

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yes pepino... my dad used to play it all the time for my daughter ... now it's the only Italian song she will listen to

lol -- the ultimate would be producing a nuke on the next turn and launching it at them :)

step one recruit galleri ...

I did and got most of my land back for now just going to cash out my remaining turns, if I get a top 15 spot it will be ok considering how thing went.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xKXmv8rkbA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNyY08Ql9lE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxJVlveLDuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvlI49gGIeE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs9TxjWp3lI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9FMvfvkBro

It's the music I grew up with it just helps me relax when I'm pissed off and ready to do some really dumb fluff like farm the top 10 in express :P

#29 Did not hit me and if by some remote chance it is not a bot and 29 land grabbed me I would not retal the hit, I might call it out as an impostor if they used missiles.However if it is just land grabs then I chock it up to I deserved it for taking the risk and hitting a real player.

So if those 3 countries hit me on behalf of 29 then by all means come on up and admit it and get purpled for coordination.

had I wanted to hit real players I could have used my advantage at the start of reset to just farm the living fluff out most countries ... I was in the #1 position for 14 hours the closest #2 got was within 500k points #3 was a million points behind. This was on under 6500 acres with countries sitting @ 8K-12K acres plump and ready to loose a 1000 acres a piece had I wanted to be a fluff.

Like KoH says Pew-Pew-Pew, :) I might just go for it some reset with the full expectation of having a dead country by end of reset. Although I know KoH saying Pew-Pew-Pew means to take my retals against those LGing my country ... or is it Celphi-Borg-Style 1 hit and assimilate target. :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_goHl-GuNk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQDUX3GL96c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBSstA7mKCc