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mono now is fine, theres plenty of strats that can be mono now, main ones being a tyr techer and a fascist farmer without many farms yet

theo at the end of the set is a different thing though, thats for destocking

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only server without humies i remember the netters landkilled people just by netgaining with efficient play

although there was 40 acre minimum gains with either tyranny or dec war then i think

do you mean express that goes for 5 days?

https://www.earthempires.com/...ress/leaderboards?type=13

that shows the best 3 countries by each player

1 Gerdler $101,349,989

so gerdlers got a country at least about 34m nw from that


if your asking in general highest nw at 5 days on a different server thats not really a relevant thing since you can get higher nw early but it costs you a lot more later

https://www.eestats.com/alliance/market

just use that and sell at 24 hour average if you dont want to think

sometimes food will take a long time to sell at average price though early set

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it can happen for the first 20 minutes or so

or is it lasting longer than that?

do you prefer bre?

there were plenty of other games like that before he made bre

one was made by his brother though, maybe solar realms elite

given that they were both based off another game though you can probably just make what you like

In Utero

i think hungry hit every tag on the server last set

from the build menu click destroy on the bottom

https://www.earthempires.com/alliance/build/destroy

opens this page, then you want to go to the last option and destroy some, for the bonus acres if you were a techer and didnt want them it would be 20 for example

Drop Unused Land

i think by land he means "a land" ie "a country"

so hes saying hes banned from making new countries

https://www.earthempires.com/...hanges-48122?t=1576769870
- The restart bonus has been disabled until we can workshop how to implement it better

https://www.earthempires.com/...set-19-48510?t=1595611608
- Restart bonus is re-enabled with the following changes:
- Number of defends before dying no longer has any impact on the restart aid calculation
- All restarts will receive 25% of their original country's resources at the time of death as the base calculation for resources to restore on the restart, rather than up to 95%
- All restart will receive 50% of their original country's resources on the market at the time of death, rather than up to 95%
- Turns, bonus points, etc will be counted the same way as before
- When looking up a restart country in-game through the country search, the original country # will be available on the search results page


did you only read changeset 18? because that one was actually undone in the same post, but 19 supersedes it anyway

its a donation

it might say something a bit different before you get it but im pretty sure its something similar to what it shows after you get it


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not sending tanks to offensive allys would be the popular one if you want to repost it on bugs and suggestions

2021-12-17 18:20:06 GS Apollo (#311) Stones Hungry (#116) 1C 22 F

Hungry (#395)
(Monarchy)
Rank: 240
Networth: 436,016
Land: 4364
Successful Attack Percentage: 96.97%
Restarted From
Hungry (#116)


the previous country was killed by stones

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Foods at high risk of carrying listeria include:

foods at ready-to-eat salad bars, sandwich bars and delicatessens
ready-to-eat meals
soft and semi-soft cheeses
unwashed raw vegetables
soft-serve ice cream
raw shellfish and seafood
unpasteurised dairy products
cold cured or prepared meats
pâté

19 Redemption 3 140 acres $6,467 M 46 0
5 Grumpy Old Man 7 140 acres $8,370 M 60 0 PDM
4 way to go 8 140 acres $8,416 M 60 0
18 The Fabric of the Cosmos 11 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0
13 SoL Ends in 2022 17 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0 SOL2022
12 Gerdler Beats Me 18 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0
15 Sterlitamak 126 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0
2 Marcia Ethelred 227 140 acres $9,645 H 69 0
16 1 out of 3 aint bad 238 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0
10 Erik Hezaq 301 140 acres $6,959 I 50 0
14 Boy This Party Really Died 309 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0
3 Prime Merlinean 323 140 acres $8,997 M 64 0
17 Omicron halts inflation 331 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0

looks like 13 countries total at least
thats 12 out of 118 non bots which is over 10%
some might be wrong but its likely most of them got double bonuses and there could have been more
that was from a few hours into the set

22 hours into the set i checked again and got 187 hits this time at 140 acres
177 of which are bots, so thats a huge amount of countries effected

and given all the bots seem to play immediately they probably all triggered it then it happened when they played again throughout the day in batches

perhaps being triggered by the first one being somehow before 00:00:00

also linked to this some people avoid logging in during the first couple of minutes because sometimes it makes the 9 bonus points from premium trigger but they dont count towards any countries that the set starts on that day

4 Gerdler Beats Me 18 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0
3 Sterlitamak 126 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0
2 SoL Ends in 2022 17 140 acres $6,517 M 47 0
1 Grumpy Old Man 7 140 acres $7,073 M 51 0 PDM

these 4 countries probably had it happen

cant declare peace after making an attack either

as the url is broken on that version of the page

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#387 2m br break
not sure about gs break

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1K SS OR kill me) tech 2kkk fnd land) good luck in game) and sorry for ....

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#387 dropped all turrets so kill now.
10k BR



btw im #27 and and didnt notice your message at the time sorry, i was actually thinking you were either not trying too hard to suicide or changed your mind because i think you sold all defence twice, or maybe sold jets

it was in between two other messages and i didnt really read it just assumed it was about the break, this might explain some confusion on our side

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sounds like either its in the the wrong folder now or the name of the file you need to use has changed

https://www.earthempires.com/profile/17976

Game Profile for charleo
71 89 ChArLeoR (#407) 10,241 $16,900,064 T
71 BOMB mE iF YOU cAn (#68) 42,317 $46,649,089 T m0m0


https://www.eestats.com/...iance/oldcountry/2591/407
https://www.eestats.com/alliance/oldcountry/2591/68

doesnt seem to be any reason for it, maybe the altercation with Tattered War Feet (#31) had something to do with it. Although josey only did 2:1 on the original 6 hits with 12 retals and then let the RoR's go so that seems unlikely.

that links to eestats as well, but i like the idea of a good open tool for people to use without a barrier to entry

and eestats is definately to my like, particularly for market info i like it the best

https://www.eestats.com/...ldmarket/1758/oil_barrels

yes,this one is probably about as bad as it gets, just over 1k early when volume is miniscule

if its not too much trouble id probably try something a little more granular like this, oil maxes at 4200 so the 10k one would only catch tech which at least has a meaningful floor of something like 450-600 rather than 20-50

if($maxprice>5000){$maxprice=10000;$ticks=500;}
elseif($maxprice>4000){$maxprice=5000;$ticks=250;}
elseif($maxprice>3000){$maxprice=4000;$ticks=200;}
elseif($maxprice>2000){$maxprice=3000;$ticks=150;}
elseif($maxprice>1000){$maxprice=2000;$ticks=100;}
elseif($maxprice>500){$maxprice=1000;$ticks=100;}
elseif($maxprice>300){$maxprice=500;$ticks=50;}
elseif($maxprice>150){$maxprice=300;$ticks=30;}
elseif($maxprice>100){$maxprice=150;$ticks=30;}
elseif($maxprice>50){$maxprice=100;$ticks=10;}
else{$maxprice=50;$ticks=5;}

https://www.eestats.com/...et&goodid=6&old=1

not sure if it would be possible to do something like

https://www.eestats.com/...maxprice=200&ticks=20

but that would also be super cool though, particularly for checking volumes as they go from 1,000's early to potentially 1,000,000,000's billions late set

if its at all hard to code dont waste too much time on something only i might use :)

btw speaking of parsing the market info

i like to import your market feed into spreadsheets sometimes and i had to write error correction for when nothing is sold in a category during a time block, usually the 6 hour one in a minor tech, or early set during protection

but i dont actually want you to fix it because it would break stuff :P

something which might be easy for you to change would be the vertical axis on the graphs since sometimes price spikes and then it gets hard to tell what its at, for oil which can go to 4200 for example would be handy if that didnt go to 10k

food also would make sense to cap at slightly over private price since volume sold over that is very low

i dont know if theres a way to make the top of the vaxis be the highest value plotted rather than the next power of 10 after that value but that would make it a lot better too

https://www.eestats.com/alliance/serverstats

also this page is pretty cool and useful for a few things like average food and oil price, jets prices have become more important than turrets though and arguably agri more so than bus

boxcar and ghqnet dont use the market feed

boxcars markets been down for years and i dont think qhq ever had it that could be the difference

http://li.epicgamer.org:8080/...ame=bushels&newsid=72

theres this market site too which is up, so its probably not that


i dont think its relevant but found this error in ghqnet when looking for market stuff:

Detailed Error Information:
Module IIS Web Core
Notification MapRequestHandler
Handler ASPClassic
Error Code 0x80070002
Requested URL http://laf.ghqnet.com:80/games/earth/TechCalc.asp
Physical Path E:\ghqcom\games\earth\TechCalc.asp
Logon Method Anonymous
Logon User Anonymous
Request Tracing Directory C:\inetpub\logs\FailedReqLogFiles

i looked through my old countries and it looks like every set i traded was within the 25 bot era and had maybe a little bit of player hitting too, so i might be exagerating a bit

https://www.eestats.com/alliance/oldcountry/914/206
this one i traded to 120k at the end, might have been before min jet sends, i barely traded after that set

yeah mil strat doesnt matter that much super late, its helpful early when you need to manage your DR more but it matters more the milstrat of the person hitting you since you need to get the most growth you can for each dr on you

actually the 10% rule might even be helpful to managing trades, although thats only if everyone is running the same strat ie ffo since anything else would distort the market

edit: i forgot its 6.8*1,5=10.2 so no millstrat required now on perfect even grabs and that would slow early growth rate even more since you wouldnt be doing 13% hits ideally during the midgame, but if growth does slow a bit its still better than allx and could be interesting if the slower growth combined with quicker bonus points leads to better tech levels earlier and longer grabbing might get total acres back up there

it would be even more annoying to setup trades though since youd need to know their buildings to propose a trade, and it would have to be some weird x% of rigs per day of the set so that everyone didnt completely crash oil but was still able to trade with eachother

build cost is always going to be the biggest limit to landtrading since your building 232% of the land you grow its going to make a huge difference if its growing maybe 10% quicker than it was

and it also lets you do a couple more hits at the end of grabbing that would otherwise be unviable

im not sure if it would allow extra hits once you hit -100 or very close though since youd be giving up a lot of turns if you keep doing it while not grabbing, maybe use 3 days to store up turns might give you 4.5 or 6, but it does give you other options, and you always need to have other people still wanting to exchange when you want to

@bore

because http://www.earthgraphs.com broke at the same time id expect it was something either the game changed or maybe a certificate expired

dont think it can be requiring security since boxcar and ghqnet show as unsecured and are still updating

what id actually like is multiple leader boards at end of set

total
no offence or research allies or fa received
no non bot offence or research allies or fa received
total minus net offence/research/defence/fa

then for each of those categories youd have it further subdivided by

allx
allx self retals only
allx tag retals only
bot farming only (include hits on untags once the untag changes take place)
trading
trading+bots
all, basically player farmer

to seperate trading vs player farming youd track land gained vs lost vs country over the set and it would qualify if

none of the extra boards would be a big deal, but at the end of the round it would say you finished 30th, but you finished 2nd for allx for example, and the additional info would either be on your country history list or clicked through on the individual countries pages


as to where landtrading wound up, it was something like 140k due to escalating jets costs, but if you do it properly you can manage the late game a bit longer, and since then build cost reduction has gotten a lot quicker too

btw earthgraphs also stopped updating