So the market is dead on team until the last 5 days?

With only around 60 players the market is not really functional. The server needs either more players or bots to make this work right.

Let @Pang know maybe he will add some bots.

pang would add bots but players are against adding bots on this server so if you want bots to be added 1st convince those who are against bots that bots would be good addition and then tell pang that he should add bots to team.

Bots would kill team. The market will be used this set, I can personally guarantee it lol

Bots would not kill team.

It would do the opposite of kill it. It would give market demand for goods that is needed. 60 people is generally not enough to sustain a healthy market through the set. Many people are scared to run certain strat due to fear of having goods not sale etc or not being able to depend on enough tech on the market to buy for a strat.

This is why tags feel the need to have one techer so a few of the team mates can leech from. That's neither good for the techer or the other person who cannot leech (can only have 3 RA).

Maybe your fear DruncK is not that bots would kill it but too many bots would hurt the meta? Maybe the middle ground is just to add a few bots to help with the market mainly.

It will certainly kill all X netting as it did in Xpress.

could add bots that always have protection so they can't be hit and just play the market :P

Interesting idea.

or add just 15 of them so that they are not worth grabbing by all strats. you'd have to be CI, techer and/or tyranny to make it worthwhile most of the set then as they would be farmed to crap, they would still increase the market volume by a ton and allow people to depend on the market in a way thats not possible now.

Team has a lite market. It's tough but its not the end of the world. I didnt play here during SOTS, but i never did like the concept of that rule because, as with most collusion solo stuff and whatever, I always thought the game should disallow you from taking actions that were rule-breaking, rather than havings mods make a subjective judgement call.

That said, if you add bots and remove SOTS, isn't team just 1a with faster turns and a shorter set? Or express that lasts a month? Bots that stay green all set would just make a market massively similar to 1a right? I guess people opposed to the bots just because they like allx, but would like their impact on the market would be pleased...

...but for me, part of the challange of team is the lack of market and huge swings in pricing set to set.

The whole point of earth is that unlike utopia and other games like that we are encouraged to specialise and the market is what enables us to do that. So many cashers and farmers run 400+ turn tech phases to make near all the tech they need for the entire set. They are essentially rainbow. I have no problem with short tech phases to get the income techs up fast but when you do it do remove the market from the equation, especially with a FFO that can build to stay self sufficient all set, then you are no use to the game and you are killing its spirit.

Forget bot masturbation and pve blame games... these strats that are brought forth by the team market are going to be the final nail in the coffin in this game if we don't stop them.

Theres a reason all 6 servers have a market. The team market has been dysfunctional for long, but in the past year or so the tournament market has declined to a pretty sad state too. No one has suggested removal of the market, which Im happy about, but it's slowly evolving to that in those two servers. The market remains the most central feature this game has, and without it we should all just play utopia because its better in every way other than that it lacks a market and what it brings.

well sots was nice idea but badly implemented and all knew it wouldn't work in long term.

It's a team server so until they can be made to tag up then no bots here please.

Yeah in this server even casual players can compete via all X, if you add bots you'll lose most of if not all, like in Xpress, it used to be so much better without the bots, if you look at the server now it is mostly 1a players when before it was a good mix due to all X being viable, we lost at least a dozen players to bots in that server.

KoH that depends on how many bots you add, as gerdler pointed out.

It does not necessarily have to ruin all-x. But even if all-x was ruined is that a bad thing? All-x is x-tremly boring to me :p But if you're still worried please see the first line of this post.

15 bots would be impossible to grab for most strats most of the set. So all-exp would still be very much viable.

You put 15 bots in here not in protection I'll make sure they're red before 1000 turns is played =P

Because everybody has to play TSOs way or the highway


Wasn't there talk at one time of just merging the Team market with the Tourney server market?

Is that possible being that they're in different server?

Just because we don't like you does not mean we are TSO, moron.

I'm quite sure that devs could make it happen.

If thats how you wanted to spend your sets then so be it. You'll get tired of it or someone will see a reason to make the bots restart if killed, which frankly would be a good feature already

Or they will just add 10 more bots, and then another 10 more. Until team is FFA. :P

With what turns will you do that? Certainly not mine.

Yes it is possible. The database can still share the market goods / transactions just fine.

Problem is that collusion with one-self will be rampant and too hard to control and prove. Doesn't make sense that you can't win tournament without playing team and vice versa.

Easiest way would be to just add a low amount of bots but if that is decided against it would be possible to create a parallell server to tournament and team respectively that couldn't be joined by players and had X1 and X2 bots respectively and the same turn count, beginning and end date as the actual server, that shared the market.

I still think team should be used solely as a testing grounds type of server. Change the rules every set, change government bonuses, make an instant market, sell missiles/land. Try some new fluff out and let us play around

until bots can retal via random AI, and do random kill runs if provoked, its a hard pass for me for bots to be on team.

bots have ruined the other servers bc they have no brains for retaliation.

No bots on Team, please. The market may be slow but at least it's a human driven market. The bots completely change the game in the market and I way prefer the market without them.

Also, we are happily playing lazy all_x netting. Adding bots would multiply the work required to win 5 times, and complete my change the dynamics of the server.

Play with your bots on alliance, Express and FFA and leave us alone here.

Thanks

Yeah :-)

Damn, I was just mad it took 17 hours to sell 19k jets lol

at least those sold, other option you'd have liked less.

Only 4 commies in the top 25 and 3 of those are untagged/spam tagged so I have no idea of their quality. Any commie not in the top 25 is obviously clueless, so we may have only one serious commie carrying the whole market.

and that differs from normal?

Marshall, if quality posts were cash money, you wouldn't be able to afford a Little Debbie cream pie

Marshal never seen a cream pie....

Thought marshall was a result of a cream pie

Marshall was a test tube baby from a discount fertility lab where hand washing was optional

All this crying made me create a Team server country out of support. I was wanting a tag and hacked into one, so not to be a one person tag. I'm still playing it, often enter account sitting with max turns, so I know I've lost turns. The country is doing well with currently very little tech, but my plans are to help stimilate that market a bit soon. If I'm taken out, or farmed, I promise not to get upset or ruin accounts. It's my, "random act of kindness" that work keeps going on about;-) I am, however, well protected, just no intention of warring, so mostly defense. Just curious though...will this outting make me a target now, or does it make any real difference at all that I'm playing a country here?

I don't know that anyone really cares, carry on, bro!

Sweet...I guess, lol