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SuperFly:
1 - i asked Cathankins for FA while Mercs fought LaF. Cath sent FA. LaF killed Cath for FAing their enemy (same thing that Cath and Josey did this set btw in FAing an enemy)
Slightly contentious correction / comment unrelated to the main thread, mostly because it came up on discord recently as well (feel free to ignore this post and/or mute yourselves as desired):
The issue was not FA to Mercs - Tmac and gains chatted about that early in the set, and it was agreed that it didn't make LaF happy, but it was agreed to prior to their super early OOP AB war and very reasonably due to Mercs killing off all of the suiciders the previous set, including BlackHole with all of the connotations of Gerdler and SuperFly at the time (how are you in the middle of so much drama?) - and we didn't have a NAP that forbade it since LaF unilaterally dropped it.
Presumably, Evo was killed due to FA to SoF restarts, as evidenced by the screenshots posted in Discord which focused on non-mercs tags (because otherwise, it was already obvious and admitted) who were on our list of untags for FA, but tagged up something else later (it was an honest mistake, I checked the admin logs at the time, and no one who received FA was tagged at the time of FA, but without a NAP, LaF could hit for whatever reason anyways).
This is contentious because it's possible gains said it was "ok" but just meant he was going to hit us later for it. It's also contentious because Gerdler reached out to Tmac in game saying he didn't like it, then lied about who he was and said he wasn't involved in the politics (see Tmac's post
https://earthempires.com/forum/post/1013457/perm), but no diplomacy or discussion really ever occurred beyond the beginning of the set.
Relevance: In both cases, I argue that diplomacy would have been the better tact. Josey's group could have "netted" with their hundreds of missiles and told not to FA M4D. LaF could have asked it to stop, threatened war, and/or demanded FA the following set etc. Both cases would have led to a lot less drama for the following sets.