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tduong Game profile

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Mar 26th 2012, 23:26:35

Just last reset, i was #1 for a while. I don't get it, i can't log in every 2 hours to play my turns. I have to run 100+ turns everytime i play else, i'll accumulate too much and lose turns. i'm not storing turns, i just can't play them fast enough or not enough cash to run them.
Usually, i can't spend all my turns because i don't have the cash.
Even when i see turrets selling at 144 and undercut to 134 to sell so i can play 2-3 hours later. That fluff seems to get get stuck in the market for hours longer because retards tends to undercut all the way down to 100 or less for some reason.

I logged out t10 more than half the time last set. I was the first country to hit 10mil net while 2nd rank was 9mil. At the same time, a spy op on old man revealed around 300 turns on hand. So please, don't make me look like the bad guy.

How are you going to tell me not to have a tech phase? lol you know that's stupid and completely my choice how i want to start. Not to mention, it's smart to have a tech phase.

No i will not start attacking at 3000 acres. That's dumb. At 3800+ is the logical choice. And what part of i can't log in often enough to make all those land grabs do you understand? That's why i batch explore!! After i get 9-10k acres, I only need to make up to 10 attacks and a few retals to hit 20k.

what you're telling me to do doesn't make sense. If i want to retal my way to 20k then i would skip the tech phase, get fat and look somewhat like a rainbow with buildings and military. I'll bet then I'll have at least 15 retals and probably get me over 20k just from that.


Edited By: tduong on Mar 26th 2012, 23:36:41
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Jackelope Game profile

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Mar 26th 2012, 23:33:02

the market is the other problem... if you dont get lucky pricing fluff just right, run outta oil, food, fluff not selling.. its so hard to keep the war machine rolling... it always seems to fall apart thursday night for me.. logistics fall apart.. no oil.. cant sell... something always fluffs up.

tduong Game profile

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Mar 26th 2012, 23:39:27

cause thursday night is when most people plays their turns and lots of it. Especially the cashers finishing their tech phase and buying out all the oil and food.
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Mar 26th 2012, 23:41:00

Originally posted by Jackelope:
tduong... how can i tell if they started late? it always seems to show 0turns.. no one has 300mil on day 2... they have 3-4k acres.. 100k turrets of less.. no food.. no oil.. but im not going to waste 10 turns comparing spy ops.. spy, cal, hit, move on... when's the last time you played out front?? i challenge you to try it! you make it sound sooooo easy to pick these guys out... but every set ive played with you.. you dont even get rolling til day 3...

explore to 3000A attack from there.. try that. No teching, no storing turns..than you can speak with experience.


how can you tell when they start? check eestats history. You use it to find targets anyways.
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crest23 Game profile

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Mar 26th 2012, 23:46:01

Hey Jack, why did you call me out like that? Right when I'm using a name that will not be associated with me, lol. The gal I warred with last set promised to hunt me every set for her entertainment so if anyone sees Nigeria on the list, it ain't me! Haha! Besides I need to stay away from her, after the raping I gave her she should be giving birth in about 9 months and call me a bad man, but I cannot afford another kid :-)

Going forward I will only be using Nigeria in my name when I want to further develop my war skills.
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Mar 26th 2012, 23:46:57

I don't store turns on purpose to retal people, it's just a side effect of me sleeping, working on Thurs and Fri, going out after work on Fri and spending Sat and sometimes Sundays with family and friends. When I'm at home, I try to maximise turns use by playing every other hour.

But I agree, the number of turns on hand usually deters people from hitting you. If I spy someone with 200 turns on hand, I will think twice before hitting him.

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Mar 26th 2012, 23:48:44

3800A is not optimal.. tyranny is probably better off attacking right from the start.. while a demo would need 1spyop+3toLG... would need 200A + to make it worth while.. often i dont waste a turn on spyop.. just calculate the max def.. save 1-2 turns.. plus dont need spies first 500turns..

Jackelope Game profile

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Mar 26th 2012, 23:51:28

sorry oldman and crest.. my point originally was you guys use same name.. you make almost 100% retals.. so its not even worth trying to get away with it.

Crest- was that a girl you beat on? lol

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Mar 26th 2012, 23:54:47

Originally posted by crest23:
Hey Jack, why did you call me out like that? Right when I'm using a name that will not be associated with me, lol. The gal I warred with last set promised to hunt me every set for her entertainment so if anyone sees Nigeria on the list, it ain't me! Haha! Besides I need to stay away from her, after the raping I gave her she should be giving birth in about 9 months and call me a bad man, but I cannot afford another kid :-)

Going forward I will only be using Nigeria in my name when I want to further develop my war skills.


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Jackelope Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 0:00:53

hey i got a quesion... from the old days.
my memory is bad.. booze and drugs have taken there toll.. :P

was it possible to drop to 1 acre(military base) instead of rebuilding MB's at end of set??.. i tried last set but my private market supply disapeared..

crest23 Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 0:03:33

Originally posted by Jackelope:
Crest- was that a girl you beat on? lol


Might as well have been. Her use of a wet napkin to hit me was akin to a fly bugging you while trying to eat outside or in her case, a fly trying to smell my chit.
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crest23 Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 0:04:46

Originally posted by Jackelope:
hey i got a quesion... from the old days.
my memory is bad.. booze and drugs have taken there toll.. :P

was it possible to drop to 1 acre(military base) instead of rebuilding MB's at end of set??.. i tried last set but my private market supply disapeared..


Yes, PM is contigent on your acreage.
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tduong Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 0:06:20

Originally posted by Jackelope:
3800A is not optimal.. tyranny is probably better off attacking right from the start.. while a demo would need 1spyop+3toLG... would need 200A + to make it worth while.. often i dont waste a turn on spyop.. just calculate the max def.. save 1-2 turns.. plus dont need spies first 500turns..


how could 3800 not optimal?
after 1912 acres, your explore rate goes down. So from 1900 i batch explore to ~3800 which takes less than 50 turns unless you're unlucky.

I don't see much of a point to start attacking when i'm below 2 mil net. The % formula for landgrabs is based on % difference not the delta between nw. So at low nw, it is harder to get max gains when attacking because the difference between 500k vs 300k nw is the same as the difference between a 5mil nw country vs a 3 mil nw country. That being said, the gains are too low when i can still gain 22 acres per explore. Ok so 10 turns get me 220 acres vs 2 turns. But attacking cost me units, cash, and added risks of retals.

For my situation, it is best if i explore to at least 9k acres.
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tduong Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 0:10:27

Originally posted by crest23:
Originally posted by Jackelope:
hey i got a quesion... from the old days.
my memory is bad.. booze and drugs have taken there toll.. :P

was it possible to drop to 1 acre(military base) instead of rebuilding MB's at end of set??.. i tried last set but my private market supply disapeared..


Yes, PM is contigent on your acreage.


i played this in late 99 to early 02 and the pm definitely went down with the market. But the only people who drop to 1 acres are demos. Theos will get killed doing that against someone that has 3 nukes lol.
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Jackelope Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 0:26:05

Originally posted by tduong:
Originally posted by Jackelope:
3800A is not optimal.. tyranny is probably better off attacking right from the start.. while a demo would need 1spyop+3toLG... would need 200A + to make it worth while.. often i dont waste a turn on spyop.. just calculate the max def.. save 1-2 turns.. plus dont need spies first 500turns..


how could 3800 not optimal?
after 1912 acres, your explore rate goes down. So from 1900 i batch explore to ~3800 which takes less than 50 turns unless you're unlucky.



I don't see much of a point to start attacking when i'm below 2 mil net. The % formula for landgrabs is based on % difference not the delta between nw. So at low nw, it is harder to get max gains when attacking because the difference between 500k vs 300k nw is the same as the difference between a 5mil nw country vs a 3 mil nw country. That being said, the gains are too low when i can still gain 22 acres per explore. Ok so 10 turns get me 220 acres vs 2 turns. But attacking cost me units, cash, and added risks of retals.

For my situation, it is best if i explore to at least 9k acres.


i can get 2000A with a tyranny... in 20turns..easy.. but thats hard to do ALL ROUND without multitappin..in express...

Edited By: Jackelope on Mar 27th 2012, 0:29:33
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Mar 27th 2012, 0:59:14

I don't see the point of grabbing as a tyr :)
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Mar 27th 2012, 1:14:17

Tyr is at its finest with maxed out warfare tech and launching missiles IMO :p
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Mar 27th 2012, 2:39:44

Originally posted by BMW335:
yea thats my question...why wanna top feed?


ttr = top feed ???????

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Mar 27th 2012, 2:51:38

theo tech reseller
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tduong Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 3:11:13

jack i don't think you understand the whole risk/reward thing. Just play your style and i'll play mine. Everyone has their own thing and no one will completely agree with another person.
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Jackelope Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 4:53:08

Originally posted by tduong:
jack i don't think you understand the whole risk/reward thing. Just play your style and i'll play mine. Everyone has their own thing and no one will completely agree with another person.


fine... be that way :P
as long as you agree .. im right ..you're wrong..=)

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Mar 27th 2012, 15:26:54

Originally posted by blid:
Yeah, maybe a good example is someone like Phreaker4Life. I never attack him because I know he camps on turns, and I know he'll jet up and retal. Sometimes he attacks me even if I don't hit him though, heh.


this guy is a joke. shouldnt be allowed to play

regardless of if you attack him, he will probbaly attack you unless youre super landthin

then doesnt bother finishing. ends up 40th.

why bother ruining my set if u wont finish. asswipe.
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JJ23 Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 15:30:01

Originally posted by Jackelope:
tduong... how can i tell if they started late? it always seems to show 0turns.. no one has 300mil on day 2... they have 3-4k acres.. 100k turrets of less.. no food.. no oil.. but im not going to waste 10 turns comparing spy ops.. spy, cal, hit, move on... when's the last time you played out front?? i challenge you to try it! you make it sound sooooo easy to pick these guys out... but every set ive played with you.. you dont even get rolling til day 3...

explore to 3000A attack from there.. try that. No teching, no storing turns..than you can speak with experience.



tech start is how you win though. because if not u just get fat and landraped.

i can agree with you about TD not getting rolling until day3 tho. he had freaking 400k nw and a whopping 7 spies and i was D/I allied to him. i texted him to see if he was still alive and going to play. rofl.
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The way my 30m got busted was the ultimate in nobility and self-sacrifice because I could have simply canceled the alliance but I was too big a person to do so.

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Mar 27th 2012, 15:35:37

Originally posted by JJ23:
Originally posted by blid:
Yeah, maybe a good example is someone like Phreaker4Life. I never attack him because I know he camps on turns, and I know he'll jet up and retal. Sometimes he attacks me even if I don't hit him though, heh.


this guy is a joke. shouldnt be allowed to play

regardless of if you attack him, he will probbaly attack you unless youre super landthin

then doesnt bother finishing. ends up 40th.

why bother ruining my set if u wont finish. asswipe.
You say this but you sometimes like to offensive ally with him, heh.
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Mar 27th 2012, 15:36:35

I like Phreaker4Life, he's a cool dude.

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Mar 27th 2012, 15:37:29

He actually is cool, I've talked to him several times. I don't know why he plays that way though.

Last time he hit me randomly (not a retal) I was tempted to go multi-tap back but then I saw he'd thought of that and had a bunch of warfare and missiles... so people could only retal him once. I feel like there could almost be a good strategy somewhere in there but I don't know.

Edited By: blid on Mar 27th 2012, 15:39:39
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tduong Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 18:11:47

that's why you match nw and pump mil strat for a retal so it hurts.
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Mar 27th 2012, 18:13:20

Originally posted by blid:
Originally posted by JJ23:
Originally posted by blid:
Yeah, maybe a good example is someone like Phreaker4Life. I never attack him because I know he camps on turns, and I know he'll jet up and retal. Sometimes he attacks me even if I don't hit him though, heh.


this guy is a joke. shouldnt be allowed to play

regardless of if you attack him, he will probbaly attack you unless youre super landthin

then doesnt bother finishing. ends up 40th.

why bother ruining my set if u wont finish. asswipe.
You say this but you sometimes like to offensive ally with him, heh.


ive allied with him once... maybe 60 resets ago.

i normally seek out my wb buddies and ally with them.

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The way my 30m got busted was the ultimate in nobility and self-sacrifice because I could have simply canceled the alliance but I was too big a person to do so.

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Mar 27th 2012, 19:47:54

I remember you allied him in this round
http://express.www.earthempires.com/topplayers?round=113
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Mar 27th 2012, 20:03:56

THat's not quite 60 resets ago.
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JJ23 Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 23:50:12

are u sure?

i dont remember honestly. so if i did that would be twice. but id gladly subtract those 2 sets for the other 5-10 where he hit me.
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The way my 30m got busted was the ultimate in nobility and self-sacrifice because I could have simply canceled the alliance but I was too big a person to do so.

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Mar 27th 2012, 23:54:42

Originally posted by blid:
The way my 30m got busted was the ultimate in nobility and self-sacrifice because I could have simply canceled the alliance but I was too big a person to do so.

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Mar 28th 2012, 5:45:06



LMFAO@CheatTonyOfCowPooPoo (#60) ohhhh brother!
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JJ23 Game profile

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Mar 28th 2012, 8:04:36

that reset is more proof phreaker runs all jetter.

i normally have 2 very good def allies (top 15 players)

and am never more jets than turrets that late in the reset...

he had to have like 80pct+ jets and good off allies to be able to SS break me.
Originally posted by blid:
The way my 30m got busted was the ultimate in nobility and self-sacrifice because I could have simply canceled the alliance but I was too big a person to do so.